Oh god, fine - you perverts can make games about hentai, but leave Nintendo out of it. Princess Peach was created by Nintendo, don’t steal her name to put on your crap. Screw hentai games, dump this crap and play a real game okay, you god damned perverts?
Whoa, are you for real? The games are hardly perverse, the people who play these games most certainly are not perverts, and Peach Princess is not an inversion of Princess Peach from Nintendo’s Mario games. If you want to go into deeper discussion about Bishoujo games, please email Kumiko, who is the administrator of this website, or myself, the principal investigator of the Bishoujo Gaming Survey thesis at yeoushiu@eden.rutgers.edu
Oh my god! I’ve never laughed so much in my life! What was that? An attempt to make Peach Princess look bad? If you’re not interested in Bishoujo, then maybe you should find something better to do than make useless posts at forums of sites that you’re not interested in. Secondly, I couldn’t care less whether Peach Princess had stolen their name from Nindento or not. Nintendo has done far more harm than Peach Princess ever has (Nintendo, lying to their customers publically through their website is a good example).
Personally, I think the only perverts are companies who pander games to kids and give their characters sexually suggestive names like “Peach Toadstool.” Actually, the combination of patently vaginal and phallic images seems more explicit than suggestive.
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Excuse me…? Nintendo aims at kids? Maybe you shouldn’t friggin pull information out of your ass. Nintendo’s aimed at true gamers since they were created, and they’ve stayed with aiming to true gamers, creating games that can be fun for people of all ages and not giving in to the sexuallity, violence, and gore that Playstation is making standards for.
And about Peach Toadstool being sexually suggestive… maybe if you wanna screw a potato, which I wouldn’t doubt about you pervs…
ahem, please, no name callings, and keep this discussion to a rational, collected level.
Ok people the only things that’s gonna work on this thing is Flame and Acid.
Don’t feed the troll
"violence, and gore that Playstation is making standards for."
Oh aha so you are saying that the Turok games aren’t promoting blood and gore at all?
They may not be made by nintendo but they sure are made for their consolles in first hand
I didn’t mean to imply that Nintendo only makes games for kids; it’s just that they are much more all-ages oriented than many game producers and those looking for games with more mature themes (notice I didn’t say more mature games) are much less likely to find such material with Nintendo. I think Hideo Kajima said it best when he said that he didn’t think that the Gamecube was demographically suited for Metal Gear Solid 2. Such a game is not beyond the general Nintendo-playing populace on the basis of play control or mechanics (afterall, Pokemon is an extremely deep game from a mechanics standpoint) but of themes and subject matter.
Which is where bishoujo games come into the argument. Anyone who claims that all bishoujo games are quantitatively hentai or revolve solely around sex (although those sorts of games do exist) are not only proving their ignorance of bishoujo games but of gaming as a whole. Quick button mashing and a need for quick reflexes does not make a good game; there are many other nuances that go into making a game good.
Many of the bishoujo games require critical thinking (some would call it roleplaying, others puzzle solving) to determine the course of action to “win” a specific girl. Figuring out the appropriate course of action is where the gameplay in most of the current English bishoujo games comes into play. Plus bishoujo games generally have good character development and stories that are typical (and sometimes not so typical) of anime. (It’s also worth mentioning that Eve Burst Error doesn’t even have any explicit sexual content or nudity.)
I don’t care if you think that all bishoujo games are about sex (besides, what’s wrong with sex anyway?), but I hate to see ignoramuses make such claims as you did without looking carefully at what you’re criticizing.
And to bokmeow, I hope my mention of the images inherent in Peach Toadstool aren’t considered irrational.
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Originally posted by Gurvon:
Ok people the only things that's gonna work on this thing is Flame and Acid.
Don't feed the troll [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
Don't forget that he might be a Fire Troll and in that case, only ice will work [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan of Nintendo’s games (Mainly SNES), but note the keyword “games”. I DO NOT like being lied to, even if it is by a games company and I certainly DO NOT like a games company that tries to deny me of any way of playing their games, even when I am offering to pay legally for them. Nintendo, while they make some good games are liars and try to manipulate the gaming market.
Now, saying that Nintendo makes games that are “for all ages” is the same as Disney claiming that their movies are “for all the family”. The fact is that Disney create products that are specifically aimed at children, but that doesn’t mean that they are not suitable for all people, though it’s unlikely that you’ll see many adults watching Disney without children (Though there are those who do), but it’s the often the same with Nintendo, they create games that appeal to younger players… they may be suitable for older players, but they certainly are aimed at a younger audience… Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that this is necessarily a bad thing, as I have already said, I do enjoy many Nintendo games, but the fact is that ultra colourful backdrops and cartoony characters like those seen in Mario 64 are obviously aimed at a younger audience.
And to define “True Gamer”, there is NO SUCH THING as a true gamer. There are gamers, and that is it… Some gamers play games more than others, some play one genre, some play another, some play all, some play retro games, some play the latest games, but anyone who plays games is a gamer, and there is no “True Gamer”. I’ve been playing videogames since I was 3, and I would not consider myself any more than a gamer.
Don’t you just love it when someone joins and one of the first things they do is pretty much flame everyone on the BBS?
You know, now that I think about it, when the heck did the Princess get the first name of Peach? I know for the longest time, all I heard her refered to was as ‘Princess Toadstool’. Not a point on contention, mainly curious really.
Anyways, I think I’ll sit back and watch how these threads continue for awhile. Sorry, Bokmeow-san, I think rational, collected discussion has been pretty much discarded at this point.
<Oh aha so you are saying that the Turok games aren’t promoting blood and gore at all?
They may not be made by nintendo but they sure are made for their consolles in first hand>
Right, they aren’t made by Nintendo, and therefore have no relevance in my argument. Thanks for making me waste my time to post this.
I aim to please
<<I didn’t mean to imply that Nintendo only makes games for kids; it’s just that they are much more all-ages oriented than many game producers and those looking for games with more mature themes (notice I didn’t say more mature games) are much less likely to find such material with Nintendo. I think Hideo Kajima said it best when he said that he didn’t think that the Gamecube was demographically suited for Metal Gear Solid 2.>>
And I think David Gosen said it best when he said, “GameCube will not be targeted at kids, it will not be targeted at teens, and it will not be targeted at adults. GameCube will appeal to anyone that enjoys being entertained by interactive gaming. And we believe strongly that gaming is an attitude, not an age,” if Metal Gear Solid 2 isn’t going to be directed at anybody that’s entertained by video games, we don’t need them for GameCube. Oh yes, you have just been owned.
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Originally posted by PrincessToadstoolLover:
Excuse me..? Nintendo aims at kids? Maybe you shouldn't friggin pull information out of your ass. Nintendo's aimed at true gamers since they were created, and they've stayed with aiming to true gamers, creating games that can be fun for people of all ages and not giving in to the sexuallity, violence, and gore that Playstation is making standards for.
Are you like disconected from reality? NINTENDO ONLY AIM AT KIDS, they would have gone out of business at the middle of the 32 bits wars if it wasnt it for Pokemon (product wich is definitly aimed at kids), for the N64 they only released or licensed stupid kiddies games, only at the end they started to chance their policy seeing that Sony was kicking their asses with tittles like Metal Gear, FF8, etc, games that are for mature and intelligent ppl.
Oh,and about the PriPea name, gosh i have played almost every Mario and dint even remenber the princess was called the same...
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sigh It’s really sad to see such pointless arguing. I guess I just can’t help but get my hands dirty.
You should look at it this way. both sony and nintendo are both trying to do one thing. Make fun games. Perhaps nintendo is aiming for a younger audience. But does that mean I can’t enjoy playing the original pokemon? Does that mean I can’t have a fun game of smash bros.? Of couse it doesn’t. Don’t think that because they target a younger audience that older people can’t have fun. Some of you seem to be arguing that you need to have exessive blood and violence to enjoy a game.
As a rule of thumb, developers for sony’s system tend to create larger games, with lots of depth to them, and nintendo and its developers create shorter, but more competative, exciting and more polished games. Now before I’m flamed, I’m going to say that this isn’t always the case, but its a good rule to go by.
I am a fan of a good story, but I still enjoy a game of Mario Tennis (I was amazed how fun this really is) or smash bros. This doesn’t mean I don’t like final fantasy. You should stop bashing each other based on what system you support. They’re aimed at different people, and just because you don’t fit in with the target market doesn’t mean its a bad product.
Oh, and btw, I’m sure that while its a funny coincedence, if you did your research you’d probably realize that Peach Princess doesn’t really have much to do with Princess Peach at all. I’ve seen several japanese bishoujo (or if you must, PreincessToadstoolLover, hentai) sites that use similar names, based on fruit and such, such as gamespot japan’s own strawberry club. I don’t know enough of japanese culture, but I can point with reasonable confidence that Peach Princess probably has its names rooted from some similar japanese sybolism.
Doddler
cough Nintendo kiddie??? cough
Gamecube will get Resident Evil series.
Resident Evil Remake exclusive
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil Code Veronica
Resident Evil Zero exclusive
Resident Evil 4 exclusive
Gamecube’s Resident Evil Remake will release on March in Japan only. Then possible release in USA on summer/fall 2002.
Is Resident Evil series kiddie? cough
Anyone will give me some cough drop? Or bash me with honor Kaori’s anime hammer?
Well, yeah, as i said they had to chance their policy because Sony was kicking their asses, but most of N64 releases were for kids and its ok if you enjoy then but gotta admit they were ignoring the adult gamers completly.
Man. After reading through everything, this is got to be the dumbest argument I have ever heard, this is a waste of time and human potential to argument interest in games. Hey Toad boy, if you don’t like something just avoid it, there is something call free choice, nobody is forcing you to like PP, and nobody has the right to just forcing their interest in other people’s face either. Common man, why don’t you go to a GameCube BBS and sent your grievence there. Stop poping these kind of stupid flame war, after reading most of your post, my head hurts. You have a right to your opinion, but this isn’t the BBS for your rant.