I’d like to know one thing… exactly hoew “hard” does Peach Princess check that their customers is of the “correct age” to buy the games that Peach Princess offers? On Megatokyo’s forums, there’s one guy who’re “complaining” about two of his 15-year old being able to buy Peach Princess’s games and he’s saying that Peach Princess doesn’t seem to care about cheking the age of their customers… So I’d like to know exatly how “hard” Peach Princess are cheking their customers? And what means do you use to verify the age of your customers?
I agree with Kumiko. At least in America, there seems to be a big vocal movement amongst people who want others to parent their children for them, and so we have censorship out the wazoo.
Here State-side, it is the parents’ responsibility to keep an eye on their children. Leaving the computer to babysit their children, like some families I knew before college, is generally a bad idea, and does little for parent-child relations. Shuffling blame off on others is rather petty.
Really, if a parent allows their children to get hold of their credit card, they are not keeping it safe enough, though I do personally know of a case of a 15 year-old asking one of his older friends who has a credit card to order games for him, which he did for three of the games here at Peach Princess. (To be accurate though, this doesn’t mean that Peach Princess has sold games to someone who is underage, it means that an adult bought the games from Peach Princess and then re-sold them to a person who is underage).
Having said this though, my parents would have allowed me to use their credit card when I was 16 or 17 to order games like Snow Drop and Tokimeki Check-In as they never check what the games I play are about or their content. I don’t think my parents really care about what games I play though - When I was about 14, I asked my parents to buy me the game ‘‘Blood’’ as I couldn’t buy it because it was rated 18, and they did.
aint u a lucky B. however ur parents should’ve checked the content of the games ur playin my parents did (except 4 the ocation when DN3D came out they got it 4 me.
speaking of which why do ppl worry bout age verification? i think it is a waste of time ya kids are gonna see “unacceptable”/“Pornography” at some stage in there life so why stop em at an early age?? it ONLY (from my experiance) encurages them to go lookin Hmmmm
I know the best thing to stop kids using CC’s make sure they are broke eg limit reached so no more ordering of the card can be made (good but may not be so logical tho)
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Parents should be responsible and teach kids about becoming a social entity, about expressing emotions, and of course, about ‘Love and Peace.’ Don’t start pointing fingers and blaming parents for not spending enough time with kids though, because they have to forego quality time to sustain living expenses, and even today, in the 21st century, it is very rare of any company to grant parents the leisure of being with kids without severe pay forfeiture or missing promotional opportunities.
who said i was pointing fingers? u make good point there but some how i dont see much of that happening the fact remains now is that parents are either too “soft” “dont care” or as i have seen the “family chains” have been cut there arent many parents that actually do teach there kids the ways of life any more which i think is a real shame dont you agree?
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why not use something like adult check? it’s good protection against minors gettin access to adult orientated content (hmm time to take some asprin an hit the sac that overheated my single cell brain 
) but should PP resort to this? i’d say no to it, it could cause PP to lose buyers, but all in all its really down to the minors by now they should be able to read and understand the warning/disclamer when u first enter the site parents can only do so much once there part is done there’s nothing the can do unless u know reverse psychology good method when it works
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quote:Well, see the thing about Blood was that they already knew the contents of the game as I already had the shareware version of the game before buying the full version. They also knew and understood that my reasons for buying the game was for level-editing and entertainment value, not for the violence or gore in the game.
Originally posted by TraitorHunter:
aint u a lucky B. however ur parents should've checked the content of the games ur playin my parents did (except 4 the ocation when DN3D came out they got it 4 me.
With bishoujo games, it's different though because they would not realise or even imagine that such games exist; my parents have never minded the fact that I play violent games (They did after-all, practically encourage me to watch Nightmare on Elm Street when I was about 9 or 10), but because they aren't aware of the existence of bishoujo games (or any type of game that involves nudity or sex), they would never check a games content because as far as they're concerned, a game is either violent or not violent; there aren't any games that have sexual content.
Kumiko: adult check store cookies on your computer so id’s can’t be given out…i think u make good point Kumiko weak laugh tho i dont quite understand but any way i agree (god knows what the laws/regs are in the UK)
TurricaN: i cant really see the point in callin these “violent” games violent so there not 4 the weak hearted ppl a game is a game but i still think that movies/H-anime/H-manga should NOT be encouraged to minors
altho both parents/responsible adults AND companies should use every method possible to prevent minors gettin content they should not get so you could say both parties are at fault agree?
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Originally posted by TraitorHunter:
Kumiko: adult check store cookies on your computer so id's can't be given out...i think u make good point Kumiko *weak laugh* tho i dont quite understand but any way i agree (god knows what the laws/regs are in the UK)TurricaN: i cant really see the point in callin these "violent" games violent so there not 4 the weak hearted ppl a game is a game but i still think that movies/H-anime/H-manga should NOT be encouraged to minors
altho both parents/responsible adults AND companies should use every method possible to prevent minors gettin content they should not get so you could say both parties are at fault agree?
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I would say not that 'both parties are at fault' for 'failing to prevent minors getting content', but lies in the failure to teach progenies about sex. To prevent children from accessing 'adult content', which certainly should not preclude firearms, violence, sexual situation, money, social interaction, without fully instructing the reasons is akin to punishing a societal misfit in hopes of applying deterrence theory to the betterment of society. That's prevaricating about the bush, and it should be discouraged. Explain why, not throw away the key.
bokmeow: do you know ne 1 how teaches there kids the rights and wrongs nowadays?howerver can u rephrase ur reply i dont quite understand it to well
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just dont give up the ghost just yet but What makes these “adult” games adult rated? i mean like there aint ne thing offensive in em there all based on the same theme “making Love” whats so adult bout that so it’s in a bit more DETAIL than the non adult anime games/comics/cartoon/movs etc
some one enlighten me here cos i dont see anything too special bout em (maybe i been playing em too long)
now you can give up the ghost
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Just adding my thoughts…
If I were a parent (and I admit I’m not), I would rather my kid were using his lunch money to buy bishoujo games instead of drugs or something worse.
Having a bishoujo game stashed among Drakan and Asheron’s Call is like having a Playboy stashed under the mattress. It’s a rite of passage for American kids. Granted, I’d much rather find “Snow Drop” than “Water Closet” in my kids’s video game collection, but better either of those than a crack vial or needles.
As for using a parent’s credit card without permission, that’s not forgiveable IMO. Besides being illegal, it’s also a great sign of disrespect. My kid would be in WAY more trouble for that than any erotica he might have stashed in his room.
Lastly, as for parents who extend their permission, but don’t realize what their kids are buying with their credit cards, they have only themselves to blame. Handing a kid a credit card is like potentially handing them $1000 (or whatever your limit is) cash - you don’t hand over that type of purchasing power without closely monitoring what they’re doing.
MHO (^_^) - thanks for reading!
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Originally posted by tennyo:
Just adding my thoughts...If I were a parent (and I admit I'm not), I would rather my kid were using his lunch money to buy bishoujo games instead of drugs or something worse.
Having a bishoujo game stashed among Drakan and Asheron's Call is like having a Playboy stashed under the mattress. It's a rite of passage for American kids. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Granted, I'd much rather find "Snow Drop" than "Water Closet" [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/eek.gif[/img] in my kids's video game collection, but better either of those than a crack vial or needles.
As for using a parent's credit card without permission, that's not forgiveable IMO. Besides being illegal, it's also a great sign of disrespect. My kid would be in [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/mad.gif[/img] WAY [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/mad.gif[/img] more trouble for that than any erotica he might have stashed in his room.
Lastly, as for parents who extend their permission, but don't realize what their kids are buying with their credit cards, they have only themselves to blame. Handing a kid a credit card is like potentially handing them $1000 (or whatever your limit is) cash - you don't hand over that type of purchasing power without closely monitoring what they're doing.
MHO (^_^) - thanks for reading!
I agree with you about that disrespect part. When i was a minor my parents left money around the house, their credit card on the dressing table... Stuff like that, and i never took it. Hell, even to this day that happens, and i don't take anything. Now when i was really young (around 8-10) i used to go into my grandma's purse and take some money and goto the arcade... Hey gimme a break i was really young and I was addicted to the games [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]
Anyway, stealing a credit card or money is pretty much disrespect or just immaturety. The thing that drives the young buyer is the hormones i guess...
oh thats all there is to it. some dude got his facts mixed up…can’t we get it changed to violance=bad real bad and sex=good???
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