Critical Point - who do you suspect?

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#1

Well, as the name say, I really wonder who you suspect is the culprit(s) in Critical Point? Judging by the character profiles, almost everyone seems to be able to benefit from the “problems” at the base for one or more reasons… For example, lets take Lai Wong; accoring to the profile page, she hates being second to anyone and she doesn’t like Carla Benedict either… but, what if she found out that there is a way to get the base rid of Carla and rise in rank to base commander??? For those reasons, Lai wong might very well be the culprit,; if she caused those techical problems and Carla weren’t able to do anything to prevent it from happening and were removed from her post becuase of her inability to do so, then she could take Carlas post and by “discover” where the problem was, she’d ensure that she stayed on the post after that. Morever, if she managed to create some false edvidence that suggested that Carla was the culprit, not her, then she’d ensure that Carla wouldn’t ever be able to return to the base and she’s also have managed to get Carla accused of treason…

Ther’e many other reasons to suspect the other characters, too…

#2

Isn’t there, like, more than one person it can be depending on which path you follow? I really have no idea who I’d suspect… I don’t know why though, but Carla and Reiko are lower on my list of suspects… That’s really a guess though.

#3

Well, it’s true that the story has three different branches where the circumstances around the techinal troubles and all that are different, but it’s still fun to speculate, right? (it at least gives us something to do while we wait for the gmae to get done… we might even be playing it in a few weeks, if the playtesting procceeds without any serious troubles)

[This message has been edited by Spectator Beholder (edited 02-16-2002).]

#4

Simply put, who has the most to gain by being the sabotuer? Let’s run through the character list:

Leiji Osuma- The character you play and 99.9% not the Sabotuer. (Hey you never know it could be a Bubblegum Crisis thing where your arm takes control of you while you sleep, type of twist ending)

Reiko Shinozuka- Your assistant and also 99.9% not the Sabotuer.

Carla Benedict- 50% chance, though her reasons might have to do with either her past as a commando or revenge against her ex-husband who, more than likely, is in the military as well.

Elise Triad - 75-90% chance that she is the sabotuer in one of the outcomes. Her unique nature makes it possible that she’s doing this for android-kind, or her personality program went off-kilter etc.

Lai Wong - 85-95% of being the sabotuer in one of the outcomes. Gut feeling and if Carla wasn’t as professional as Lai is, she would want to do anything to get Carla out of the way.

Maretta Dias - 65% chance, although her motivation would be to get Lai her promation to base commander.

Monica Brown -85-95%. Since the problems didn’t start until she showed up, either A) She is the sabotuer or B) Another person is using her presence to throw the trail off of themselves.

Thorndike and Kaminski - 50% chance, because if one’s involved so’s the other, and since they control the commando unit on the base, they could have taken over the base any time they really wanted to. It’s highly unlikely that they’re the sabotuers.

#5

…I can only say that as one of the few who actually have played the game before, knowing beforehand all the answers can be a real killer. On one hand, you’re tempted to reveal all and end the suspense (and, incidentally, risk being lynched by murderous gamers who didn’t want to be spoiled); on the other, you can be tickled to death at all the guesses from others, some far-fetched, others less so.

What I can say is kudos to Doug, who’s in the right direction but not necessarily on the right track.

#6
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Originally posted by Doug:
Simply put, who has the most to gain by being the sabotuer? Let's run through the character list:

[QUOTE][b]Leiji Osuma- The character you play and 99.9% not the Sabotuer. (Hey you never know it could be a Bubblegum Crisis thing where your arm takes control of you while you sleep, type of twist ending)

Haha, now, wouldn't that be something! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]. But the techical problems started before Leiji got to the base, so I don't think that he, nor his arm, are involed in any way

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Reiko Shinozuka- Your assistant and also 99.9% not the Sabotuer.

Probably not, but then, again... she IS a techical genius and could therefore be capable to mix with the computer to cause the techical distrubances, as well as hiding the fact that she's the one who is resposnible... And also, the guide says that she's not affected by the sexual desires that affects allmost everyone at the base... kind of suspicious, don't you think [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]. But I myself can't see any reason that she would have for being the Sabouteur, but it could be something that will be revealed in the gmae but not in the guide.

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Carla Benedict- 50% chance, though her reasons might have to do with either her past as a commando or revenge against her ex-husband who, more than likely, is in the military as well.

Well, could be... Through she'd put herself in a dangerous position by doing so. But if she was willing to take that risk, then why not? And as the base commander, it'd be more easy for her to hide the fact that she were the one who's responsible for the trobles - after all, the majority of those who runs the base trust on their base commander (or so I think)

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Elise Triad - 75-90% chance that she [b]is the sabotuer in one of the outcomes. Her unique nature makes it possible that she's doing this for android-kind, or her personality program went off-kilter etc.[/b]

Yeah, could be... There's a chance that she has a techincal malfuction somewhere in her system (after all, she's still in the "testing stage" according to the guide) that makes her run wild - a fact that she tries to hide as good as she can, if that's the case.

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Lai Wong - 85-95% of being the sabotuer in one of the outcomes. Gut feeling and if Carla wasn't as professional as Lai is, she would want to do anything to get Carla out of the way.

Yeah, as I said, Lai Wong is most likely the sabouteur in one of the outcomes... But we could be wrong anyway - and if she has a strong feeling about her duty, then she might not be the sabouteur after all - people who feel strongly about their jobs, their duty, wouldn't do anything "wrong" that goes against their duty or take the risk of losing their job.

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Maretta Dias - 65% chance, although her motivation would be to get Lai her promation to base commander.

Yeah, could be soemthing like that, since she's kind of "loyal" towards Lai Wong... and if Lai got promoted to base commander, then Marietta herself would also most likely rise in rank too - to second-in command on the base.

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Monica Brown -85-95%. Since the problems didn't start until she showed up, either A) She is the sabotuer or B) Another person is using her presence to throw the trail off of themselves.

Maybe... She could very well be the sabouteur - or a spy/infiltrator. Hmm... if she is the saboteur, then what reason would she have for doimg it? If she is the saboteur, could she then be doing it only because that she wants the "story" (you know how some journalists are - they'd walk through hell itself if they could get their hands on a good story - even if they had to work behind the scenes to "create" that story).

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Thorndike and Kaminski - 50% chance, because if one's involved so's the other, and since they control the commando unit on the base, they could have taken over the base any time they really wanted to. It's highly unlikely that they're the sabotuers.

Yeah, it's unlikely that any of them is the saboteur, and yet... as Kumiko said, they wouldn't be capable of running the base by themsleves, so even if they tried to do something, it wouldn't benefit them, unless... they're working with someone another at the base that could help them to run the base if the indeed tried to do a "coup d'etat", or working with anyone at the outside? I mean, if they caused the techincal malfunctions that causes this sexual insanity, then that means that if an enemy attacked the base, the staff would no doubt be no good during a sneak attack on the base - and if the commandos took the side of the invanders, then it'd be no sweat for the enemy to take over the base...

[This message has been edited by Spectator Beholder (edited 02-17-2002).]

#7

I admit it! It was meeee!
…What? Critcal Point?
Er, probably best you ignore that then…
slowly backs out as people resume their conversations then bolts out the door

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Leiji Osuma- The character you play and 99.9% not the Sabotuer. (Hey you never know it could be a Bubblegum Crisis thing where your arm takes control of you while you sleep, type of twist ending)

There’s also the possibilty of mind control/and or amnesia related things. ^_-

#8

I seen some episodes of Bubblegum Crisis last night, isn’t Critical Point written by the same guy who written Bubblegum Crisis? I nearly had the playable demo, but on 97%, my computer reset for no reason… It wouldn’t be so bad if DAP had resumed the download like it was supposed to, stupid crap software.

I’m not sure why, but sci-fi anime never usually interests me much, but the idea of a sci-fi bishoujo game seems far more interesting for some reason.

#9
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Originally posted by Kumiko Kamiyama:
Did this post get stuck? It doesn't seem to be moving on the forum properly... or maybe Kumiko's just too tired... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

Or something is getting weird on the server side (look at the time of the posts).

#10

I guess you were referring to those who are blessed with DSL, cable modem or T1/E1, don’t you? Well, I just happen to be one of those 56K dial-up users…

Probably it is better, then, as I won’t be half-spoiled (or dissapointed) until I play the game as a whole.

#11

I’ve only got a few minutes left on the download. I am one of the (un?)lucky few blessed with college access, so I can get the whole thing in minutes.

I would feel bad about taking up this much bandwidth, but I’ve preordered the game already and purchased three others (and lots of random junk); I think they can take it.

I’ll let you guys know.

#12

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This is painful. I just downloaded the file–twice [edit: three times]–and got an error. Each time. And the error was different. The first time I got a CRC error near the end and the second time [edit: and third] I got some sort of invalid header information error.

Might I suggest breaking up the large zip into several smaller zips, then having people reassemble it or something? Getting a few errors in a large file makes the whole thing utterly useless.

Or, at least, check the file to make sure it didn’t somehow get corrupted?

[This message has been edited by Nandemonai (edited 02-24-2002).]

#13
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Originally posted by Kumiko Kamiyama:
So... has anyone managed to download, install, and play the demo yet? Just curious... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

Yeah. Only got to play for a few minutes though, had to finish some work. ^_-

#14
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Originally posted by Nandemonai:

Or, at least, check the file to make sure it didn't somehow get corrupted?

Don't think it is, worked without a hitch for me, though I did think winrar froze when extracting it. ^^; (stop laughing ^^; )

#15

Yes, I’ve managed to download the whole thing on 56k dial-up, though I would have to agree that it may be a good idea to split the files using WinRAR or something similar. The downloaded file worked on my second attempt, the first one reached 97% and then my computer reset itself for no obvious reason. When I rebooted, DAP reported that it had saved it at 97%, but when I clicked on it, it resumed from 88% (My last resume point) and when it reach 100%, it just got stuck and didn’t build the output file.

Anyway, it looks pretty cool! I haven’t got around to playing it much (Download finished at 23:00 yesterday), but I have already pre-ordered the game anyway. I plan to burn the demo to CD-R’s to give to my friends too.

#16
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Originally posted by Kumiko Kamiyama:
So... has anyone managed to download, install, and play the demo yet? Just curious... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

Yep! Worked perfectly! Had some trouble installing it at first, but as soon as I got the trick, it was easy to install [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

#17

Woo first ending! Death! ^v^
Having a blast with the demo, I can’t wait for the real thing. ^^

#18

The best thing to do about splitting the file would be to split it with WinRAR. I’m pretty sure multi-file self extracting archives can be made with WinRAR. That way there would be several files ending in .r00, r01, r02 etc. and one .exe file, which links all of the files together and extracts the single big file when you run it. That way, people don’t require extra software to extract it (They wouldn’t even need pkunzip like with the current .zip files).

Anyway, I’ll give that a try and let you know if it works.

#19

I’ve never heard of StuffIt before… I was under the impression that WinRAR was a fairly popular program (I know quite a few people who use it).

Anyway, what I was saying is that with WinRAR, you could make split the files and make them self-extractable with an .exe file that pieces the split files together. People would not need the WinRAR software (or any other software) to extract the file, you would only need it to create the split files.

#20