Does anyone have firmer dates on the Hirameki stuff, especially AYA? RightStuf shows it as 8-10 days which is their designation for (available, special order from distributor) but both at PP and other places it still shows forthcoming.
I am very interested to see how Hirameki’s PC games get received as it will be the first non-h games of this nature to recieve any real distribution in the US.
Benoit only 1 problem with hirameki games, i hate playing games where i know they have been cut or altered… Aside from translated…
So ill never play hirameki games.
If they were originally non-Bishoujo games id have no problem with em at all, but the fact is they are cut…
[This message has been edited by Gambit (edited 09-02-2005).]
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Originally posted by Vaga42Bond:
Some of us have had VM-Less games since they were first translated, and we're STILL so far behind on games, we haven't finished anything since Crescendo came out.
*raises hand* That would be me....
Actually I think I would find such an interview highly interesting and I'm sure would cause some stir around here....................
Hourglass of Summer is not cut. It was originally an all-ages game, debuting on the Dreamcast and another console platform.
Ai Yori Aoshi is a port from a PS2 game. I don’t know if the PS2 game was a port from an adult game, though.
Ever17 was originally an all-ages game, too.
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Originally posted by Benoit:
Hourglass of Summer is not cut. It was originally an all-ages game, debuting on the Dreamcast and another console platform.Ai Yori Aoshi is a port from a PS2 game. I don't know if the PS2 game was a port from an adult game, though.
Ever17 was originally an all-ages game, too.
And I thought in several of the other cases what was actually brought over to the US were ports of versions released in Japan with the h-scenes removed there, a relatively common practice.
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Originally posted by papillon:
depends on how relentlessly dedicated you are. this is a Princess Maker style game. sim/stat management and monster killing. There are at least 50 endings depending on how you count. And the last people I tried to recruit for testing from here never sent one single piece of feedback, making me rather grumpy. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]So if you're not a diehard PM/RPG fan willing to play through things over and over and over again, you're probably better off waiting until the official demo testing comes around (which will be more of a 'Does this RUN on your PC?' test.) [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
Hell I"m game. I can play a few hours a week. Not like 20-30 but more around 5-10. Maybe 15 if the game is super good. I got several endings in Princess Maker and I also have several rpgs beat under my belt. So If you want to give me a stab at it let me know.
quote:And therein lies the problem. As long as the registration dependency exists, the game isn't plug'n'play. We'd all like to believe that PP will maintain the GG-Support server forever, but given the life expectancy of b-game companies and support for "obsolescent" products, who can say for sure?
Originally posted by Nameless Mofo:
Perigee, the versions available right now can be installed completely VM-free. Let me elaborate while it's all still fresh in my head. [...] Then, after installed, go to the GC support site, type in the 24 (?) digit key code from the back of the VM manual inside the box, and you'll be able to download the patch for the game.
I have a practical reason for wanting self-contained software media. I'm replacing a hard drive on my notebook and intend to make it a completely offline system. I want to ensure it remains free of viruses, hackers and spyware. I want a system that never goes online to serve as an application platform - mainly for video-editing (which is incompatible with protection software) - but also as a b-game platform to take along on road trips.
quote:I had the impression that PP intended to eventually remove all vestiges of VM from its GC games. In fact, the game descriptions on the GC site explicitly state
Of course you can still wait if you want to, but you don't have to. And who knows for sure if they'll ever do another print run.
quote:It would be in PP's interest to release games with self-contained patches. Keeping a registration system running forever is unnecessary overhead. As CDs go out of stock, it will be necessary to do new product runs anyway. I hope that PP will announce a final solution to the V-Mate annoyance. Until I know one way or the other, it doesn't make sense to buy the current versions.
Currently the system still requires registration but this requirement will be removed once the patch is ready.
Add another World of Warcraft addict here ^_^;
Of course, the lack of new titles lately isn’t doing much to improve the amount of discussion either
Here’s some discussion.
I want a game devoted to panties and panty shots.
Get the Anime AIKA there are enough for you ,)
I still want lesbians.
Best case, female pc with a range of options including both girls and beautiful boys, but just plain girl/girl love will do me fine. NOT ‘hot kinky girl/girl sex for the arousal of a male PC’ or ‘incidental girl/girl action in the middle of a threesome’ but GIRLY ROMANCE.
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Originally posted by papillon:
I still want lesbians.*Best* case, female pc with a range of options including both girls and beautiful boys, but just plain girl/girl love will do me fine. NOT 'hot kinky girl/girl sex for the arousal of a male PC' or 'incidental girl/girl action in the middle of a threesome' but GIRLY ROMANCE. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
But what's WRONG with "hot kinky girl/girl sex"? =fi
*wanders off singing the 'Avenue Q' song "The Intenet Is For Porn"*
It just seems like nothing is happening in the English b-game market right now. Another stale rehash of exchange, among some all-age games from Hirameki. The war is over, but so are the releases. It’s what everyone feared the most. It’s not only that there’s nothing happening on the English market, but also that there’s so much happening here in Japan. I also went to Comiket, I bought a couple b-games that will never see the light of day in English, and I’ve been getting hyped up for the new Advent Children movie. As usual, the US release was pushed back for the “holiday season.”
Currently busy with a number of things that has prevented me from posting here: Mail to Unicorn, the Laxius Power series, an attempt here and there at a bishoujo game or two that I own (most recently Pigeon Blood), trying to sort out my currently messy economy and still more b-games incoming… O_o.
… I’m sorry, but the inklings of the first game that’s really caught my interest since Brave Soul way back when is not what I’d call “feared the most”. And the new-characters X-Change actually looks good (to me) - I’m still trying to work out how to justify buying it with the other purchases I’ve had to make lately to celebrate the death of Vmate
Not to mention that people outside our little club have actually heard of Ai Yori Aoshi, so if the game is any good (personally, I get the feeling it’ll be boring for those who aren’t fans of the series, so it’s not on my hotlist) it could bring a lot of people in.
Yes, it’s sad that the stream of new releases has slowed, but as someone who thought most of the gcoll announces sounded dull, I don’t mind much.
My favorite mainstream genre doesn’t put out a new top game every month either!
Yea there isn’t much to talk with for US releases since nothing since BS has caught my attention. And well CRC while technically not released here, was carried here so i can add that as well, just because there’s been nothing else before then or after since many of those C’s Ware games.
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Originally posted by perigee:
And therein lies the problem. As long as the registration dependency exists, the game isn't plug'n'play. We'd all like to believe that PP will maintain the GG-Support server forever, but given the life expectancy of b-game companies and support for "obsolescent" products, who can say for sure?...
I had the impression that PP intended to eventually remove all vestiges of VM from its GC games. In fact, the game descriptions on the GC site explicitly state Currently the system still requires registration but this requirement will be removed once the patch is ready.
Perigee, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but maybe we define "registration" differently. As I said originally, I never installed the VM launcher, I never signed on to the VM site, I never revealed any personal info, basically by my definition I never "registered" anything. All I did, I went and downloaded 1 file per game, installed it, and now I'm playing the games with no VM, no internet, no nothing. I don't even need the game CD to play.
The patch does not delete itself, so you have the option of saving it for later use. My apologies to Peter et al, but that's exactly what I'm doing, for the very reason that you stated; ie. who knows how long the support site will stay up? Anyway the important thing is to not share the patches with others who may or may not be pirates.
I fully understand your reason for wanting a self-contained package that doesn't rely on any web downloads or anything, but it seems to me if you save the patch on a CD-R/zip disk/whatever, and keep it with the game CD, you have a self-contained package. I really don't view these patches any different than the censorship removal patches that GC supplied for Chain, Kana, and the original Kango 1. I keep those patches around too, for any future need.
As for the line you quoted from PP, I read that to mean that the patch removes any requirement to register anything through VM. It does that as advertised. Of course I would hope that future print runs would have the patch rolled in, but I wanted these games. The patches are enough for me, they let me play with absolutely no VM crap of any kind. Personally I don't mind installing the game and then applying the patch, which adds about 2 minutes to the install process.
Like I said before, you're free to do what you wish, and if you want to wait for VM-less CD's, that's certainly your choice. I just want to make sure you're aware that the current CD + saveable patch does what you say you want it to do, and I won't say any more on the subject. Cheers!
quote:If I'm not mistaken, downloading patches requires uploading serial numbers. That's what I mean by registration. The system that I intend to host the games will never be connected to the Internet. Any patches it receives will have to be on removable media. If patches aren't tied to the download system in any way, transferring them to the host system is manageable. If the patch is configured to work only with the download system, then there's a problem.
Originally posted by Nameless Mofo:
Perigee, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but maybe we define "registration" differently.
Even if the patches are system-independent, it would make sense to wait for them to be integrated with the game CDs. If PP would just state their intentions, it would eliminate the guessing. Instead, they seem to want to give us the "GC silent treatment". [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/frown.gif[/img]
AFAIK you can download it and bring it in on disk. I didn’t try this, but it’s so small and provided so quickly that I can’t see why it would be tied to the machine at all.
As for silence, I’d expect it’s really that they don’t KNOW whether they’re going to have enough demand to print another run and don’t want to say too much that might turn out to be wrong… and don’t want to say that they don’t know because it would make them look weak.
Personally I’m quite content with the way things are right now - I got to go looking for my Figure of Happiness.
And, as expected, promptly installed a new operating system on my long-suffering computer.
I don’t understand why you make such a big deal about the patch being obtained through giving them your serial. You mentioned that patches would have to be on removeable media, and you can get the patches for the G-Collections games on such media by burning them on a CD or even copy them to a floppy disk. What’s so bad about that?
As for the “silent treatment”, you can e-mail Peter at any time to ask questions, which he usually replies to within one or two days. I don’t see why people have complained in the past about not getting answers when you can contact Peter.
[This message has been edited by Benoit (edited 09-04-2005).]