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Originally posted by ekylo:
I've come to the conclusion that most of us here don't have normal thinking processes.
You know, which question you are asking for by this, right?
(O.K., my thinking processes aren't normal either, ...)
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Originally posted by Nobody:
Well, the big differnce between Season of the Sakura and True Love, as I see it, is that if you play one game from beginning to end, in Season of the Sakura, there have been a total of two sex scenes and you only told one person you loved them. If you play True Love from beginning to end, you could have slept with every girl but one and told all of those girls that you loved them. When you pick on in the end, you are leaving the others out in the cold. Not that I am bad mouthing True Love. It is certainly one of my favorite games.
Yes, I was thinking the same thing at th end of True Love: What about the other girls you've had sex with and told that you love, what about them? I'd have liked if they had made it so that if you had sex with someone else, some of the girls would know it... or something like that, like: if you have sex with anyone else of the girls, tells that girl that you love her but still chooses another, she would appear at the end at scream something like "HOW COULD YOU!? AFTER YOU TOOK MY VIRGINITY AND TOLD ME THAT YOU LOVED ME AND EVERYTHING!?" and then give you a big, hard slapp [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]. I may sound a little extreme here, but this does happen in reality, and besides that, I don't really like the throught of having sex with a couple of girls and then just throw away everyone except for one... that wouldsn't be fair to the girls, not after they've told you their feelings, offered themselves to you and everything like that... (leaving a girl like that simply isn't my style, I guess [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/redface.gif[/img])
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I've still preordered Xchange 2, though. I can only hope it is better.
I think it'll be better, trust me .9. I'm very curious about some of the characters, they and their scenarios sounds kinda funny [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img].
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UnicornWell, I had a lot more difficulties in order to get Seia, than Ruri. Both required a separate go through the whole game, but in case of Seia, Meimi really mad it difficult for me to get through to Seia (simply couldn't leave her alone at the river without a trying to comfort her).
For Ruri, I simply had to roleplay that I have fallen for her at first sight and everything went right with a bit saving and loading...
Well, that may have been so in your case, but most people have said that Ruri was hardest to get, and the same was the case for me, most of the girls weren't all that hard to get, but Ruri took some time to catch [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img].
Oh, also, one of the things I liked about Season of the Sakura was that you had to aplogize to the other girls who also were in love with you... True Love should have had something like that...
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Originally posted by Spectator Beholder:
What I often are more "negative" towards when it comes to the adult bishoujo gmae genre are games where you have no control of the story . . . but of the story isn't all that good and you can't make any choices of your own AND the story is filled with just mindless sex... that's when I may start to hate a game
Judging from this, I'd guess your favorite bishoujo games are Paradise Heights 1&2 and Ring Out. Never in my life have I come across a story as dense or as intricate as in those games; plus the lack of sex was refreshing from the mindless porn of other bishoujo games.
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Originally posted by Unicorn:
You know, which question you are asking for by this, right?(O.K., my thinking processes aren't normal either, ...)
I try not to think about it too much. In fact, I try not the think at all. But my boss complains when I do that at work... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]
X-Change wasn't one of my favorites either. (A rabid Nandemonai? Oh, the jokes I could make with that... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] ) Guess it's just personal preferences. For the most part, I don't think any of us will hold a person's preferences against them. (Ohh, bad dirty joke in mind. Stop that!)
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Originally posted by Sharpe:
Judging from this, I'd guess your favorite bishoujo games are Paradise Heights 1&2 and Ring Out. Never in my life have I come across a story as dense or as intricate as in those games; plus the lack of sex was refreshing from the mindless porn of other bishoujo games.[This message has been edited by Sharpe (edited 07-25-2002).]
Are you trying to be sarcastic or ironic there? Or were you actually trying to be serious? Of the games you mentioned, I've only played Paradise Heights 1, and I didn't like it very much... brr... in fact, it was almost as bad as Fatal Relations; you could fuck everyone, and couldn't even say no to it, hans't much control of what to do and the story wasn't anything special in that game, or so I felt...
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Originally posted by Spectator Beholder:
Are you trying to be sarcastic or ironic there? Or were you actually trying to be serious?
Let's just say that I more or less agree with your assessment of Paradise Heights--only I thought Fatal Relations was much better than PH. And bad as PH may be, you've gotta play Ring Out to know how bad a bishoujo game can be--that's a game that's more fit to be flushed than played.
Oh, and to be a bit more on topic, I think that MayClub is the most like True Love playwise (pick specific times to go places and meet certain people as a result), and Season of the Sakura is the most like TL thematically (a year in the life of a student). Personally, I like SoS better than TL and TL better than MayClub.
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Originally posted by Sharpe:
Let's just say that I more or less agree with your assessment of Paradise Heights--only I thought Fatal Relations was much better than PH. And bad as PH may be, you've gotta play Ring Out to know how bad a bishoujo game can be--that's a game that's more fit to be flushed than played.
Well, I think that Fatal Relations was much worse than Paradise Heights 1, but that's just a difference of taste, I think [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]. Also, I think I prefer to see how good an adult bishoujo game can be, not how bad, so if you sat that Ring Out is bad, then I'll avoid it [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img].
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Oh, and to be a bit more on topic, I think that MayClub is the most like True Love playwise (pick specific times to go places and meet certain people as a result), and Season of the Sakura is the most like TL thematically (a year in the life of a student). Personally, I like SoS better than TL and TL better than MayClub.
Really? Well, I don't really know which of the gmaes you mentioned is best and I haven't played MayClub, but I think that both SoS and and TL had both their good and bad points. Hmm, since we are speaking about the "older" adult bisoujo games that was released by JAST USA, what do you think of Three sisters Story, then? Throught it was quite good, but like TL and SoS, it had some bad points... for example, the fact that you had to "think" about everything and do everything in the right order was quite tiring and besides that, the story was almost TOO dark for my taste, especially at the end... But even if the story was dark, I think it might have been interesting if th emain character actually had been able to become "evil" somewhere along the storyline (one of the things I like about some of the games Peach Princess releases/is going to release is that you in some of the games can choose to go the Dark Path, which makes the story more interesting since you in that case can see what'd have happened if the main character had given in to his/hers dark desires and taken that path instead of the one that the main story suggest is the "true path".
Besides, another thing I liked about TSS was that if you weren't careful, or sleept with too many girls, you had to deal with the consecuences of it .D.
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Yeah, 3 Sis was good, although I liked SoS better, probably because it was a bit happier. Plus there were more cultural things in SoS (White day, the New Year’s cleaning, etc.) that I enjoyed. Also, SoS was the first bishoujo game I played, so I suppose I have a soft spot for it (3 Sis was my second).
Regardless, 3 Sis is still one of my favorites, and I think it has one of the more involved plots. The prologue was especially effective, I thought, in how it set up the revenge scenario but then ended with the fact that “you” fell in love with one of the girls before even starting the game. Right from the start, there was that conflict between your loyalty to your brother/family and your love of a girl. Plus it has an “extra” girl that you can go after, if you choose, and don’t have to have sex to progress further into the story which gives players some free will. I also like how it has a definite villain established from the get-go. Like SoS, it does a pretty good job of developing all of the main characters and the various conflicts.
A “Dark Path” would have been really cool, although I doubt I would have enjoyed the story much (like the Makoto scenario in Desire–I love the game, but I hate that scenario). Regardless, it would have been really interesting to see.
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Originally posted by Sharpe:
Judging from this, I'd guess your favorite bishoujo games are Paradise Heights 1&2 and Ring Out. Never in my life have I come across a story as dense or as intricate as in those games; plus the lack of sex was refreshing from the mindless porn of other bishoujo games.[This message has been edited by Sharpe (edited 07-25-2002).]
Have you been smoking MY crack again? Dammit, man, that stuff's expensive. You can't just keep taking it.
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Originally posted by Sharpe:
Yeah, 3 Sis was good, although I liked SoS better, probably because it was a bit happier. Plus there were more cultural things in SoS (White day, the New Year's cleaning, etc.) that I enjoyed. Also, SoS was the first bishoujo game I played, so I suppose I have a soft spot for it (3 Sis was my second).
Ah, yes, I liked the cultural notes too... and as I read some of them I'm kinda happy that we don't have the same customs here ^^;;;;;;. My first was if I remember correctly True Love, so I kinda have a soft spot for it too [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img].
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Regardless, 3 Sis is still one of my favorites, and I think it has one of the more involved plots. The prologue was especially effective, I thought, in how it set up the revenge scenario but then ended with the fact that "you" fell in love with one of the girls before even starting the game. Right from the start, there was that conflict between your loyalty to your brother/family and your love of a girl. Plus it has an "extra" girl that you can go after, if you choose, and don't have to have sex to progress further into the story which gives players some free will. I also like how it has a definite villain established from the get-go. Like SoS, it does a pretty good job of developing all of the main characters and the various conflicts.
Yeah, Three Sisters Story has a little of everything, you might say... good story, various paths to take, and you can choose if you wan to *ahem* plant your seed every time you get the chance to do so or remain true to the one you love. Still, even through the main character's brother did many horrible things and could be considered an alomst "true" villain (actually I was kinds shocked when his methods of getting revenge was revealed...), I don't really think he was truly "evil" in that sense. After all, he did have a good reason for doing what he did (if you see it from his point of view, what he did is quite understandable, but I myself wish that he would have limited his revenge to the one who caused everything, not extening the revenge to his family...), and also, he did relly care about the main character even at the end (he did not let him die in the fire...). Also, at the end he did realize that by trying to get revenge on the one he hated, he had become exactly the same as the one he hated, or even worse, perhaps (Well, as they say "If you gaze at the Abyss, it might gaze back at you"). It's in many ways a very sad story, yet good in many ways [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img].
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A "Dark Path" would have been really cool, although I doubt I would have enjoyed the story much (like the Makoto scenario in Desire--I love the game, but I hate that scenario). Regardless, it would have been really interesting to see.
I agree about that.... I don't think I'd have enjoyed a "Dark Path" vey much either, but as I said, it would have been interesting to see, and given a little more freedom to the player [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img].
My only problem with 3SS was that I wanted to end the game with either Yuki, or Risa, not that (expletive deleted) bitch Emi.
(It looks like I entered rift in the space / Time continuum, if you look at the previous post, I posted at a time earlier than the previous post but am listed after it.)
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Originally posted by Nobody:
Still, I liked the fact that [quote edit: in 3 sis story] you did not have to sleep with everyone. You could solve the problems in other ways. Also, I liked the realistic consequences for not using [SPOILER]. I do not think I have seen that in any other title, and it would be nice if that was touched on more often. Overall, a good game.[This message has been edited by Nobody (edited 07-25-2002).]
You know, that's the first time I've heard of that particular entity being described in that way...
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Originally posted by Nobody:
SB, I completely agree with your sentiments about True Love. At the very least, the protagonist should have received a half of a dozen good, hard slaps. Still, as I said above, it was a great game. I might want that part be different, but I still recommend it.As for Three Sisters' Story, I agree I wish there had been more paths. There should have been a dark path and/or a path were you could fall in love with someone other than Emi. Still, I liked the fact that you did not have to sleep with everyone. You could solve the problems in other ways. Also, I liked the realistic consequences for not using [SPOILER]. I do not think I have seen that in any other title, and it would be nice if that was touched on more often. Overall, a good game.
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Good to hear that most people seem to think much the same [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]. But I do agree that even without those things, both games are still good. Really, anyone who plays games will always point out what he/she think of as flaws in the game, flaws that could have made the game better and more enjoyable if fixed, but msot people still love the games, despite the flaws. And what one game hasn't, another might have, if you know what I mean [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
…Am I the only person who didn’t really care for True Love? ^^;;
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Originally posted by Nobody:
I'm sure there are those out there who share your views.
Probably, but I have yet to see one. ^^;;
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Originally posted by Nobody:
I know exactly what you mean, and I agree wholeheartedly. I really want a love sim ported one of these days, however, I know that in order for that to happen, we fans must work to promote the genre. Anyway, these games are still good (nothing is perfect after all), and, hopefully, we will receive more wonderful titles in the future.
I'm sure that we'll see a sim sooner or later, but it's hard to say what kind of sim in that case. It'll most likely be one of Will's three sims that gets here, or perhaps Endless Maid's Nights, if that's a sim, but there's also a possibilty that G-collections might pick up a sim. It's hard to say, through, and it's even harder to say when they'll release their next game(s) (they might not annouce anything before they've begun to ship all their games via all the various retailers that is willing to sell their games), but we can always hope they'll pick up a sim. since they are a japanese company, it might be easier for them to negotiate with the other Japanese companies about their games. no matter, as I said, I'm sure that we'll see a sim sooner or later [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
By the way, Lamunes... Kumiko ocne told us that when approaching Will, Guilty and Sweet Basil was the ones who were most positive towards the idea of letting their games get released here in the west... She didn't say much about Ruf, through, and even less about Rouge, and that's what I'm curious about... do you know how Rouge feels towards the idea of letting their games get released here in the west?.
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Originally posted by Nobody:
Well, as I said, I really want a love-sim brought over. As much as I am sure that the sims [b]Will has are enjoyable, I think they tend to be along the lines of slave-training-sims. Still, I'll take what I can get.[/b]
Yep. But a slave-training-sim might actually be more enjoyable than you think, by the way. you never know [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]. But sure, a love-sim would be nice too, but if all we can get for now are slave-training-sims, then that is still good as well [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]. Besides, Little My Maid will be along the lines of a love-som and slave-training-sim, as will Slave Bazaar, so those should be enough to satisfy our thirst for sims for a while [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
Woodelf - Woot, finally another person who didn’t like it! ^^
Couldn’t really get into it. ^^;;
quote:Hard?! I found it way too easy... ^^;;;;;
Originally posted by woodelf:
I having played a pirated copy , I too did not like true love. I found it too hard to play with out a cheat sheet. It was mostly a lot of stat chasing in my mind. The only scene I got using a cheat sheet was the 'cat girl' one. The rest of the characters I found were to hard to bother with.
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