No Brave Soul 2.... what about Brave Soul Expansion Pack

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#10

Conversion between platforms aren’t easy, espially for RPGs. It took almost 2 years for FF7 to be ported to pc. Reverse porting (in this case) may be a bit easier do to hardware configurations, but then they;d haveto redo artwork and some dialogues as well. Plus they’d likely haveto spend additional money to get a ps2 lisense from sony and from Crowd.

Then there is the matter of competition from games like Final Fantasy series and Xenosaga (my favorite) and some of the non-rpg mature audiance ones like Beach Volleyball and BMXXX

[This message has been edited by Jinnai (edited 12-26-2003).]

#11

An expansion pack could probably be done, if Crowd still has the tools they used to create the game and if Mogudan were available to do the extra CG’s for the Expansion. It would just be a case of placing the new missions and CG’s in the appropriate spots in the game and defining the trigger events.

-I probably wouldn’t buy it if there were not any new girls in the Expansion(preferably 2) or if Mogudan were not available to do the new art for it. New Items, new missions, new monsters would be a given.

#12
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Originally posted by Doug:
An expansion pack could probably be done, if Crowd still has the tools they used to create the game and if Mogudan were available to do the extra CG's for the Expansion. It would just be a case of placing the new missions and CG's in the appropriate spots in the game and defining the trigger events.

I think a sequel would be better than an expansion. There are two reasons:

1) Expansions are made of owners of an existing game. Guess what? BS was created some time ago, most Japanese gamers most probably have moved to another games.

2) Even if people still have that game (specially because it was part of Crowd's Best collection), the market would be limited to those who bought the original game.

In other words, if Crowd is still interested to create something on the same line as BS, it would make more sense to make a sequel than an expansion. Something about, let's say, Rudy and (insert your favorite girl name here)'s son/girl decides to go to adventure, and because of your connection to the royal family (Karen), he/she has decided to go beyond the borders.

#13
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Originally posted by fxho:
I think a sequel would be better than an expansion. There are two reasons:

1) Expansions are made of owners of an existing game. Guess what? BS was created some time ago, most Japanese gamers most probably have moved to another games.

2) Even if people still have that game (specially because it was part of Crowd's Best collection), the market would be limited to those who bought the original game.

In other words, if Crowd is still interested to create something on the same line as BS, it would make more sense to make a sequel than an expansion. Something about, let's say, Rudy and (insert your favorite girl name here)'s son/girl decides to go to adventure, and because of your connection to the royal family (Karen), he/she has decided to go beyond the borders.


Still if they still have the basic tools and as Doug says Mogudan were available it would be cheaper and easier than a sequal and thus more likely given its poorer sales records to dating sims.

Reasons?
1> No need to make up a new game from the ground up...even sequals haveto basically start from scratch.

2> It takes less time and money....this should be obvious...rarely are exapnsion packs as expensive as original games (though they can be close when they 1st come out).

3> There isn't the need to as high of a threshold of potential buyers usually for an expansion as there is a new game.

Basically the only real problem would be the fact that not everyone owns BS. They can however offer a bundle deal though. They could of course give peach princess the rights to make an exclusive english edition expansion (HA HA yea right) if they feel a japanese market wouldn't purchase it .

#14
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Originally posted by Jinnai:
Conversion between platforms aren't easy, espially for RPGs. It took almost 2 years for FF7 to be ported to pc. Reverse porting (in this case) may be a bit easier do to hardware configurations, but then they;d haveto redo artwork and some dialogues as well. Plus they'd likely haveto spend additional money to get a ps2 lisense from sony and from Crowd.

Then there is the matter of competition from games like Final Fantasy series and Xenosaga (my favorite) [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img] and some of the non-rpg mature audiance ones like Beach Volleyball and BMXXX

[This message has been edited by Jinnai (edited 12-26-2003).]

You know, Even tho they spend times and money to make an expansion/Brave Soul 2 for Brave Soul, it may have positive outcome (In this world, there is alway something good and something bad, it could never be only one) in the near future.

I think even if Crowd and Peach Princess may something like that for RPG Brave Soul on PS2 , it with cool, not that much game that is simular to Brave Soul, and their is a lot of teenage anime freak and fans out their that like beautiful character design (Both Gender) and the story. If that possible, it may boost up the marketing sales. And I would like to buy the Teen Rating version of Brave Soul on PS2 or Other Hardware Console or PC

SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT BRAVE SOUL!!! lol

Oh yea Jinnai, Xenosaga is my favorite game too, can't wait for Second Episode. can't wait until Augest 2004. O_o

[This message has been edited by Dark Alicia (edited 12-26-2003).]

#15
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Originally posted by Dark Alicia:
You know, Even tho they spend times and money to make an expansion/Brave Soul 2 for Brave Soul, it may have positive outcome (In this world, there is alway something good and something bad, it could never be only one) in the near future.

This is a tough one. I don't think there is much incentive now for Crowd to create BS2...

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Originally posted by Dark Alicia:
I think even if Crowd and Peach Princess may something like that for RPG Brave Soul on PS2

Another tough one. AFAIK, Sony won't let adult games hit the PS2. Noticed most (if not all) ren'ai games being ported into consoles have the H content removed? (Not that it matter THAT much, but you get the idea).

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#16
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Originally posted by fxho:
Another tough one. AFAIK, Sony won't let adult games hit the PS2. Noticed most (if not all) ren'ai games being ported into consoles have the H content removed? (Not that it matter THAT much, but you get the idea).

[This message has been edited by fxho (edited 12-27-2003).]

Possible for X-Box

DOA Xtreme Vollyball have a hidden sercet in there ---> Nude DOA girl top to bottom.

if PS2 is 0% chance maybe X-Box will have 1 % chance. :P lol

#17

Actually, while it may be easier to port to Xbox, PS2 and GC sales since they’ve come out have outstripped Xbox, despite it having superior hardware. Doesn’t mean there aren’t tons of Xbox oweners, just in comparison is all.

I would buy an Xbox, but thay have no good english rpgs, they’re all for ps2, except i am a zelda a fan…and i might get a GC just for that game…

[This message has been edited by Jinnai (edited 12-27-2003).]

#18
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Originally posted by Jinnai:
Actually, while it may be easier to port to Xbox, PS2 and GC sales since they've come out have outstripped Xbox, despite it having superior hardware. Doesn't mean there aren't tons of Xbox oweners, just in comparison is all.

Added to the fact that most ren'ai games are made specifically for DC or PS/PS2

#19
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Originally posted by Jinnai:
Actually, while it may be easier to port to Xbox, PS2 and GC sales since they've come out have outstripped Xbox, despite it having superior hardware. Doesn't mean there aren't tons of Xbox oweners, just in comparison is all.

I would buy an Xbox, but thay have no good english rpgs, they're all for ps2, except i am a zelda a fan...and i might get a GC just for that game...

[This message has been edited by Jinnai (edited 12-27-2003).]

**Cough** Knights of the Old Republic **Cough**

#20

got a problem there doug?

Yea, but its not really close to an rpg…not atleast by oldschool definition…(and no i’m not talking about hackfests…i never liked hacking games much…unfortunatly those are the norm…sigh…)

Actually i always perfered playing for the Empire (although the game is before then)

[This message has been edited by Jinnai (edited 12-28-2003).]

#21
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Originally posted by fxho:
Added to the fact that most ren'ai games are made specifically for DC or PS/PS2

DC???
You mean PC

#22
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Originally posted by Dark Alicia:
DC???
You mean PC

No typo in my post; I meant DC. If you check Jinnai-san's reply to your post, we were all referring to consoles.

#23

Oh

#24
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Originally posted by Jinnai:
got a problem there doug? [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

Yea, but its not really close to an rpg....not atleast by oldschool definition...(and no i'm not talking about hackfests...i never liked hacking games much....unfortunatly those are the norm...sigh...)

Actually i always perfered playing for the Empire (although the game is before then)

[This message has been edited by Jinnai (edited 12-28-2003).]

Yes it's definitely easier by playing Darkside, but I like the challenge of the lightside path and the character conversations really flesh out all the game characters.

#25
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Originally posted by Doug:
Yes it's definitely easier by playing Darkside, but I like the challenge of the lightside path and the character conversations really flesh out all the game characters.

Well thanks to your comments (and the fact i have a gift card) i think i'm gonna go buy me KotOR, though i hope they still come out with the mods they said they were going to around Christmas...that and i wished they'd have made playing the dark side a bit more difficult...more or less for the consiquences of certain actions...they can't really make it harder to become a dark side person, but atleast, unlike most rpgs you can chose your own path.
#26
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Originally posted by Jinnai:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug:
[b] Yes it's definitely easier by playing Darkside, but I like the challenge of the lightside path and the character conversations really flesh out all the game characters.

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Well thanks to your comments (and the fact i have a gift card) i think i'm gonna go buy me KotOR, though i hope they still come out with the mods they said they were going to around Christmas...that and i wished they'd have made playing the dark side a bit more difficult...more or less for the consiquences of certain actions...they can't really make it harder to become a dark side person, but atleast, unlike most rpgs you can chose your own path.

It's easier by playing Darkside because morals don't come into play when making money. (The good stuff ain't cheap) [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

[This message has been edited by Doug (edited 01-01-2004).]

#27

I never understood how taking money as a reward that was previously agreed to either as a formal agreement or as an offer is considered evil…

Now demanding a reward for something is different…

#28
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Originally posted by Jinnai:
I never understood how taking money as a reward that was previously agreed to either as a formal agreement or as an offer is considered evil...

Now demanding a reward for something is different...

To what circumstance in the game are you referring? I've never played it, so...

#29