Nov 20: reserve your copy

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Originally posted by Unicorn:
Oh, and I almost forgot: Three goddesses, three angels for charlie, three Willy, ...

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[img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]. Yep, th g oddesses are three! so this must be a holy sign of them or something like that... Not that they'd reveal it, through [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by Spectator Beholder:
No one here blames you for that [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img] (or so I think). But had it not been for the toilet ftish thing, would you have brought it, then?
I was thinking about one thing, a multiperspective game we may get the chance to see someday in the future would be on or both of the "Spiral Corridor" games. Those are multiperspective games made by Ruf, so there's a chance that we may see those, but there's amount of bondage and things like that in those two game, but could you still buy it?

If they do blame me for it, I quite frankly don't care what they think.

As for a bondage game without the toilet fetish...I don't know. I have very low tolerance for non-consentual anything; if the game featured consentual bondage for whatever reason...I'm not sure. I do know that the toilet fetish was an automatic do-not-buy; I suppose it would depend on what kind of bondage and how much. (I have nothing against people who like that sort of thing, in theory, but is isn't really my thing.) The multi-perspective gameplay would be a big plus, I won't even try to pretend that's not true.

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Originally posted by Unicorn:
Oh, and I almost forgot: Three goddesses, three angels for charlie, three Willy, ...

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>:( I think you mean FREE Willy.


...

And no cracks!

Woohooo!

Just made my order for Private Nurse!
So, they decided to start accepting orders some hours before the set date, just in order to avoid a repetition of the refresh-orgy last time…

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Originally posted by Nandemonai:
> [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/frown.gif[/img] I think you mean FREE Willy.

OOooopsie, daisy! A typo...

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Originally posted by Nandemonai:
I do know that the toilet fetish was an automatic do-not-buy; I suppose it would depend on what kind of bondage and how much.

I understand that, but at least there is one point that defends W.C.: Somethingawful.com gave it a perfect -100 (because the "Review" was broken up into two parts, each with a rating of -50).

So, there must be something really brilliant about this game, that simply eluded my own perception. Otherwise they had no reason to beat it down this way. Gotta play it from the beginning once more...

i admit i am still undecided about Water closet and whether to buy or not to buy…right now my choice is clear because i have no money but once i do, it will become a debate in my head again…

i’m not big on toilet fetishes myself…it is rather a turn-off actually, but i am really interersted in the multi-path, multi-perspective idea…it seems really original, and i have heard that the game is actually pretty funny,and i am usually pretty good at turning a blind eye to things i don’t like in a game…i just hit the ENTER key a lot faster

so i am still not sure which way i am going to go on this one

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Originally posted by ladyphoenix:
so i am still not sure which way i am going to go on this one

O.K., here my advice: Postpone it, as far as you have other games, you want to buy.
Even though this multi-perspective is a nice feature, each storyline offers you not more than 5 decisions from the beginning until the end. I took me almost the same time for playing through all paths in both games: W.C. and X-Change (I have to admit, I used the SKIP-function in W.C. more frequently than in X-Change, so the overall playtime is not really comparable. But W.C. forced me far too often to repeat already seen scenes, so using SKIP was a necessary reaction.).

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Originally posted by Nandemonai:
As for a bondage game without the toilet fetish...I don't know. I have very low tolerance for non-consentual anything; if the game featured consentual bondage for whatever reason...I'm not sure. I do know that the toilet fetish was an automatic do-not-buy; I suppose it would depend on what kind of bondage and how much. (I have nothing against people who like that sort of thing, in theory, but is isn't really my thing.) The multi-perspective gameplay would be a big plus, I won't even try to pretend that's not true.

Hmm, having watched the Spiral corridor 2 demo (you can find it at Ruf's new homepage) + looked at various CG, I think that the amount of bondage in those games that you might see might depend on whose scenario you choose, and, of course, it may also depend much on your own decisions in the game. So, in short, there'd at least be a higher chance that you'd buy a game like that than a game as WC?

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Originally posted by ladyphoenix:
so i am still not sure which way i am going to go on this one

I'd advice the same as Unicorn: Wait. As logn as there is other games you're sure that you want to buy, there's no need for spending money on a game you're heistating about. In a few months, we should see XC2 and BRave Soul, so for now, I'd rather suggest that you save your hard-earned money gfor those, rather than a game you have doubts about. That's what I do, anyway [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img].

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Originally posted by Spectator Beholder:
Hmm, having watched the Spiral corridor 2 demo (you can find it at Ruf's new homepage) + looked at various CG, I think that the amount of bondage in those games that you might see might depend on whose scenario you choose, and, of course, it may also depend much on your own decisions in the game. So, in short, there'd at least be a higher chance that you'd buy a game like that than a game as WC?

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Infinitely higher. Of course, there's no chance I'm buying Water Closet--I wouldn't accept it if you tried to give it to me for free. So ir'a not too surprising.

And a game that isn't a bondage fetish title, but just has bondage elements...wait a minute, that doesn't make any sense. A game that doesn't turn the bondage into some sort of joke or gag. And a game where everything doesn't involve bondage is good. So (on an absolute scale) there is a much higher chance I'd be interested in...uh...Spiral corridor 2 or whatever you're talking about.

Hell, I'll repeat this--I liked Berserk and Hellsing, I enjoy listening to Nine Inch Nails, and I thought The Talented Mr Ripley was a really cool movie (well, until I saw it again and noticed some bad plotting).

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Originally posted by Nandemonai:
And a game that isn't a bondage fetish title, but just has bondage elements...wait a minute, that doesn't make any sense. A game that doesn't turn the bondage into some sort of joke or gag. And a game where everything doesn't involve bondage is good. So (on an absolute scale) there is a much higher chance I'd be interested in...uh...Spiral corridor 2 or whatever you're talking about.

Yep, Spiral Corridor 1 & 2 is what those gmaes are called. And I really doubt thay'd turn the bondage thing into a joke or soemthing like that, anyway [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img].

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Hell, I'll repeat this--I liked Berserk and Hellsing, I enjoy listening to Nine Inch Nails, and I thought The Talented Mr Ripley was a really cool movie (well, until I saw it again and noticed some bad plotting).

Who wouldn't like Hellsing? (Alucard rocks! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]) Or Berserk? It's rather mild, you know, compared ot the manga, anyway, which I happen to know since I own a few of the later volymes of Berserk [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img].

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Originally posted by Spectator Beholder:
Who wouldn't like Hellsing? (Alucard rocks!

Hmm, I still havn't seen Hellsing. I probably should. Funny thing is, I'm mostly interested after seeing the Easter Egg in Strawberry Eggs where the voice actor does his Alucard voice for Hibiki. The strangest things perk my interest... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by Spectator Beholder:
Who wouldn't like Hellsing? (Alucard rocks! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]) Or Berserk? It's rather mild, you know, compared ot the manga, anyway, which I happen to know since I own a few of the later volymes of Berserk [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img].


Oh, I'm well aware of that. I have all the Berserk manga I could find (and I mean I actually *own* it). I need to get around to reading it sometime...

And yeah, Hellsing's cool and all...but I dunno, it's like it lacks direction. (Not as in "the directing sucks", but more "where's it going".) I wanted there to be more plot, dammit! Or at least more understandable plot.

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Originally posted by Nandemonai:

And yeah, Hellsing's cool and all...but I dunno, it's like it lacks direction. (Not as in "the directing sucks", but more "where's it going".) I wanted there to be more plot, dammit! Or at least more understandable plot.

Yeah, I think the problem is that there wasn't much Hellsing manga out when the anime series was made, and alot of the manga was more focused on backstory and setup. So the anime went and kinda did it's own thing. The ending is particularly rage inspiring.

But I don't care. Arucard kicks ass, Seras is top-heavy, Andersong is insane, and Integra scares me. In short, I love it.

Hmm, I can undserstand that about the plot, but like Faust, I think that the characters themselves kicks ass enough to make up for the lack of plot, for the most part, anyway . But i have to say that I wish some prts of it had been more understandable, especially at the end, where everything felt like a mess ^^;. And you never really get to know who the “big guy in charge” of the whole thing was, the one who was that strange would-be vampire (or should I say being? He didn’t look like a vampire, and he denied that he and Alucard was the same) was…

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Originally posted by Spectator Beholder:
Hmm, I can undserstand that about the plot, but like Faust, I think that the characters themselves kicks ass enough to make up for the lack of plot, for the most part, anyway [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]. But i have to say that I wish some prts of it had been more understandable, especially at the end, where everything felt like a mess ^^;. And you never really get to know who the "big guy in charge" of the whole thing was, the one who was that strange would-be vampire (or should I say being? He didn't look like a vampire, and he denied that he and Alucard was the same) was...

You cannot make up for something by including something different when the two are not mutually exclusive, because then there's no reason why you can't have both. And I so wanted there to be more. Hellsing was really cool at the beginning, even cooler than at the end because it's just like...there's no real sense of cohesion.