"nudity" and adult content in other games

Visual Novel Community Archive, 2000-2009
#1

Well, I’m one of those who’re going to buy the RPG Morrowind when it comes out - and today when i visited their forum, I saw a HUGE thread about “Wanting a nudity patch to Morrowind”. It seems like most people wouldn’t actually mind nudity in a game, since it’s in many cases only natural to be nude. But, no, the devs decided to keep it out of the gmae, even through there was many fans who said that they wouldn’t mind nudity - the devs were (and is still) afraid if getting on the bad side of the public if theyh ave nudity in game. On the other hand, they’ve included an editor in the game, so there will surley be a couple of “fan-made” nude-patches to Morrowind after a while.

But that’s how things are today - most game developers doesn’t include sex or any sexual content in their gmaes at all - wellt here is a few exceptations of this but in general, most games seems to try and avoid sex or any sexual content as far as possible. As that guy said in that article, it’s extremly rare to see a game like that - and most gamers haven’t seen any sexual content in a game at all. And most gamers aren’t even aware of the fact that there in fact is games like that - like the adult bishoujo games.

#2

Bah,You should all play the great Gabriel Knight series (3 games),those are adult so to say and they are also really great games with great stories.
Made by a woman named Jane Jensen =)
(Sierra is the company name to look for when looking for these games)

#3

Hmm, haven’t played the Gabriel knights series, but… I’ve played Phantasmagora 1, and I think that that was a very “adult” game (and it was also made by Sierra, if I remember correctly) - it was a horror game, after all… Hmm, the way you played that game was a game where you could pick up and use different things, kind of like in Monkey Island, but you could miss some parts and that would be fatal - if you missed something, then you’d get killed by the end of the story and have to start all over at an earlier point again… since I’m hearing impared, I didn’t understand all of the story, but I understand enough to think that the story was good - even if it made me feel very sick sometimes

[This message has been edited by Spectator Beholder (edited 03-22-2002).]

#4

If my memory serves me right I think Jane Jensen made the Phantasmagoria games also.
It would’nt suprise me,she likes to make dark and dreary stories that are quite shocking =)

But I tell you spectator,if you ever get the chance to lay your hands on the gabriel knight series,do it!
The first 2 games can be kinda hard to come by these days but the third is still being sold for a measly 130-150 kr =)
(but ofcourse it helps to play the first 2 games before playing the third)

#5

Spectator Beholder: The reason Phantasmagoria was considered adult is not because of the game (it was a horror-type adventure game), but because of one scene in particular: the rape of Adrienne [though was very “physical”, nothing was shown, that is no nudity]. BTW, if you missed the story (from GK1 & 2), you can buy the novel. It depicts quite well both games.

Gurvon: Jane Jensen was not involved in Phantasmagoria. The creator of Phantasmagoria is Roberta Williams. The only project I recall both work together was King’s Quest VI (which was the last KQ that I liked. VII was a downer).


It is odd, though, that nobody has mentioned Al Lowe’s Leisure Suit Larry. The game was meant to be adult right from the scratch, yet it sold “well”. Probably the difference of concept of adult games?

#6

To tell you the truth the “Leisure Suit Larry” series doesn’t exactly fall into any “normal” categories. It’s more of a “teenager” level than “adult”. (Or maybe “juvenile humor”.) It’s more innuendo than anything else. If I recall correctly, even the creator didn’t really consider it an “adult” game, more of a silly rpg where he made fun of “lounge lizards”. (And nobody’s ever accused a lounge lizards of being PC.)

#7

Well, we’ve seen Judie Foster baring herself, Mel Gibson showing off his rear, and mind you, there were even breasts in Walt Disney’s Fantasia (Night on Bald Mountain). So why not games?

But seriously, Gabriel Knight was considered ‘adult’ more because of its themes, and even if it weren’t the dark nature of the games would’ve turned younger audiences off. But frankly, the best of Gabriel Knight ended with the first. As for Leisure Suit Larry series, well, it’s more lewd than anything else…kinda like the Spring Break and Sorceror series by a certain Steve Meretzsky (hope I got the name right). If I recall, there WAS one nude scene–if only for a few seconds–in an EA game called Noctropolis. A sad Batman-wannabe which turned out to be a waste of my money.

#8

For those of you who have Leisure Suit Larry 7: Love for Sail, there are a bunch of Easter Eggs in that game that show the various female characters nude at some point in the game by accomplishing certain prerequisites or typing a phrase or something.


#9

I’m a big fan of the sims (anyone heard of it?). Well, there’s a blur when they step in the shower or tub.
After a few days the game came out, someone managed to remove that blur with a ‘nude-patch’.

I think the company who made it is very open-minded though; same-sex couples are possible, in the first expansion, they made a ‘love-bed’ where you could ‘play’ in and in the third expansion you could even do ‘it’ in a changing booth. And it’s still rated ‘teen’.
It’s too bad not more game company’s can be so open-minded.

#10
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Originally posted by Kumiko Kamiyama:
Ummm... no, Al Lowe never intended Leisure Suit Larry to be considered an adult game, per se. Rather, he just wanted to make an adventure game using Sierra's usual engine to spoof the 'elder generation' so to speak. Also, you have to remember that Leisure Suit Larry et al were made before ESRB, and back when electronic gaming was not being scrutinized as mainstream entertainment.


Quote from Al Lowe's site regarding the "beginning" of Leisure Suit Larry:

"... Sierra had the chance to acquire the software rights for all the Walt Disney characters¬Öif they dropped that "nasty" game from the catalog. So of course they did. In fact, I wrote several titles for that Disney series. But, after a few years, the rights to the characters reverted back to Disney, which has kept them ever since."

"In late 1986, I had just finished programming Roberta Williams's King's Quest III, and was talking with Ken Williams about my next project. We realized there were no games on the market that were adult in nature--everything was "save the princess" or "save the galaxy." We reminisced a little about the old days and Softporn came up. Ken suggested I do an up-dated version, with "modern hi-res, 3-D" graphics, music, everything? "

#11

I played Leisure Suit Larry when I was just a little girl.

My parents and associated adult friends had to help me get past the stupid age-verification quiz for a long time though, until I learned all the answers… They all thought it was incredibly funny. (Watching me play the game, that is, not the game itself. )

#12

Cool, so I wasn’t the only one playing Leisure Suit Larry as a kid.
(We won’t go into how a 12 year old kid got his hand on that game, much less the Strip Poker one he had hidden in his closet… )

Looking at Al Lowe’s article on the beginings of Leisure Suit Larry, it sounds like at the time, “adult” simply meant “not targeted at kids”. (Being a kid at the time, that was enough for me.) But Al didn’t simply just add graphics and stuff to the old Softporn game, he says

“So I reported back to Ken: there’s no way I could bring this game into the 80’s unless he let me make fun of that life style. I said, “it’s so behind the times it might as well be wearing a leisure suit!” Everyone laughed. Hey, wait a minute…”

So it was more of a spoof than a straight adult game. And actually what I find most interesting in the article is when he talks about how the game “only sold 4,000 copies in the first month.” Now this was back in the 80’s when there wasn’t as many computers out there as today. Makes you wonder about the estimates we’re giving in the other thread doesn’t it?

#13

There was a game called Stormlord for the Sega Genesis that was supposed to have nudity in them but Sega made them "clean" it up (I seen the pictures and the nudity is non-explicit).

#14