@the_bug: You know how the saying goes right? “Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink”
@Nargrakhan: That maybe the case of why they were removed, but, I’d also like to think that the wolf beastal sex also had something to do with it. Although now that I think about it, I highly doubt the beastal aspect had anything to do with it, since there was mermaid sex in there as well.
I’m sure it was a huge factor too. 
Quite surprisingly though, the reason why bestiality is illegal, is because the act is classified as animal abuse or crimes against nature. Strictly on a technical basis: a drawing of people having sex with animals is completely legal, because it does neither. Of course this isn’t considering the whole cultural/religious taboo of screwing animals, and the universal catch-all of just calling it obscene. 
Obscenity is the real problem with censorship. If obscenity regulation could be overturned as unconstitutional, we could have all the fictional tentacle rape, lolicon, and guro we wanted – so long as you’re at least 18 of course.
True, obscenity laws are ridiculously stupid. I think that if more countries were more open about sex and nudity then we’d have nothing to worry about. Sadly, you have a lot of conservative pricks in charge of countries that seem to think stuff like this depicts what a person is really like. They will never change these laws to something that doesn’t include animation or art.
As for the Guro stuff, I happen to like blood, guts, gore and stuff like that… Which is why I loved Divi Dead and Elfen Lied and Chaos;Head.
This is something that’s always bothered me. Janet Jackson accidentally flashes one breast and the whole country goes into a freakin’ tizzy, yet they can show all the blood & guts gore they want at the movies and no one bats an eye. If pr0n makes a person want to do bad sexy things, why doesn’t the gory movies make people serial killers? And given how many people watch the gory stuff, there should be a LOT more serial killers than there seem to be. The assumption that Average Guy’s moral compass is so broken that he can’t tell fantasy from reality, well, that just doesn’t fly in common sense or any other sense for that matter.
I have more to say but I’ll leave it at that for now.
My thoughts exactly, We’re a backwards country… sex is bad, nudity is bad… Violence is good though although if it’s in a videogame then it’s bad because the columbine students played Doom and GTA. It’s like seriously, where the fuck do you people come up with this shit at.
I posted a counter argument here (which was subsequently critiqued): viewtopic.php?f=16&t=5513&start=100#p87628
It’s probably the only place on this board you’ll see someone defending bigotry. 
Which is a good argument. I know you were only playing the Devil’s Advocate, and it was a good point to make. However the major problem with it is that it assumes the abundance of fictional child porn increases the prevalence of actual child sex crimes. In actual reality, two decades of research by neutral observers as revealed that the prevalence of fictional child porn (and indeed the prevalence of fictional video game violence) has DECREASED the actual number of related crimes happening, or is completely non-conclusive.
There’s greater evidence that the spread of “peaceful religions” increases violent activity. We don’t see anyone banning faith for the greater good of society (not seriously at least). Not to mention that preemptive conviction of crimes yet to happen, has ALWAYS in the course of human history, lead to greater oppression – and a trademark signature of dictatorships and ruthless governments.
… I thought several Communist states banned religion?
Yea… but we all learned in school that Commies are [color=red]PURE EVIL[/color]¬ô so they don’t count. 
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Let’s say, your memory did serve you wrong - entirely wrong!
I just finished my most recent replay of “Nocturnal Illusion” two weeks ago - and that is just sooo much not what is happening in that scene!
It was definitely not all about the glory of bestiality, but about a girl growing up coming to terms with her own sexuality - against all the sex-abhorring preachings of her paternal environment!
And as a symbolism of her embracing sexuality as a natural part of herself, she hugged the wolf on her own accord - with no happening penetration being mentioned at all!
… and YES! It was the version from the “Milky House Memorial Collection”, in which all formerly censored scenes have their CGs!
Does that include octopuses and squids? Oh, oh! And my personal favorite, dalmatians too? 
Ok yeah I read all that, and the argument doesn’t hold water. Reading loli manga doesn’t make anyone a pedophile any more than watching a horror movie makes someone a serial killer. One needs to remember that we’re talking about “reasonable individuals”, ie. would Average Guy turn into a pedophile after viewing loli material? Would he turn into a rapist after watching rape porn? Would he turn gay after watching gay porn? The list goes on and on.
Bottom line on my opinion regarding the FP changes:
So, 2 things I want to say to Peter:
These 2 things boil down to knowing your target market, and practicing good customer relations, which any good businessman (which I’m sure Peter is) knows they need to do.
On an unrelated question. Will JAST or JList be New York Anime Fest in September? (hopefully releasing a new game)
You can’t expect an old man like me to remember that far back. We’re talking 12-13yrs… I barely remember what I did 12-13 hrs ago lol.
Want to bet who of us is the older one?
If you’re older than 33 ya got me lol. Oh god i’m old…
Except for May Club.
Of course mayclub isn’t going to include the scenes for that one girl. Hell, I don’t even know if there were any scenes for her to begin with. Were there?
Yeah, Unicorn is older than that. Heck bamboo has you beat by 30 years.
Kiddie! I just went 44 last week!
At that time, we were only discussing “Nocturnal Illusion”, so of course, my comment also only applies to that one - not to “MayClub” and neither to that third part of the collection - if anything in that third part were censored to begin with!