Questions about Japanese high school & culture

Hi guys,

In the U.S., high school students are around 14-15 years old (freshmen) all the way up to 17-18 (seniors). What about in Japan? Also, I’ve heard that they are referred to as Form 1-A, 2-A, 3-A, and 4-A, representing Freshmen to Senior classes, which can be further split into -B, -C, etc. Is that right?

When does a typical Japanese school year start and end? In Season of the Sakura, the school year begins shortly before Hanami - Cherry Blossom viewing (end of March to early April), and ends shortly after White Day (March 14). What happened to the summer vacation?

How much of western culture are the Japanese people familiar with? For example, if you lived in Japan, and you played an April’s Fool joke on your Japanese friends, would they “get it”? If you painted your face half blue, half white, and wore medieval robes, would they recognize it as a Braveheart impersonation?

Thanks for any info.

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I am not the absolute expert on this so anybody can fill in or correct me, but I will tell you what I know. Peter should be of some help too if you dig into his archives on his j-list mailing list thingy which deals japanese culture and I think those are really helpful in learning about Japan.

Schools are split into junior high and senior high, I think 3 years each. So for here we go up to 8th grade in elementary school before going into high school. For Japan (and for most education systems in Asia), I think you pretty much go up to around 6th grade for elementary school, then 3 yrs of jr high, then 3 yrs of sr high. Usually jr highs and sr high schools are separate institutions.

The term you wrote “Form 1-A, Form 2-A” I think you are referring to the HK or british schooling system, and I doubt japanese go that far into Form-4. In japan you just pretty much refer to yourself by your year and the alphabet class (eg I am year 1, class A). About the alphabets, yes it’s just subdivided classes; you don’t expect to fill the entire year into one dinky classroom, do you? Works the same way here too…at least the school that I went to in Toronto which was a private school, and the year was split up into 6 clubs/groups each having their own homeroom or HR etc anyhow you get the idea; works the same way in Japan. How students are allocated to each class is up to the school’s discretion, it can be random, but some schools do favor placing the better students together for obvious reaosons (to raise these peoples’ ranking and to minimize distraction from pepole who don’t do as well so these good students can get into better and more famous universities when they graduate).

For the typical Japanese academic school year, yes you can pretty much refer to season of sakura. It starts off in around early april and ends in mid to late march when it’s time for hanami, with a short vacation in between. Summer vacations aren’t as long as ours…well college at least; it’s only 2 months (which is the same for elementary and high schools) unlike a full blown 3-to-4-month summer vacation we have here in college, and yes you will be issued a pile of hwk to do over the summer. Note that the universties follow the same schedule too; my Japanese friend who is a CG artist just graduated a month ago.

About understanding western culture, that varies a lot. Young people might understand april fool’s day, but I think the braveheart thingy will freak people out unless you do so for a cosplay event. Obviously, young people tend to understand foreign culture than the previous, more conservative generations. Peter should be able to fill you in more on this.

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Thanks for the help, Lamuness.

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Lamuness:Schools are split into junior high and senior high, I think 3 years each… In japan you just pretty much refer to yourself by your year and the alphabet class (eg I am year 1, class A).

So basically, if I was in the last year of senior high school right before college, I could be in Homeroom 3-A, B, C, etc? Okay, I think I get it now.

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Lamuness:For the typical Japanese academic school year… It starts off in around early april and ends in mid to late march when it’s time for hanami, with a short vacation in between. Summer vacations aren’t as long as ours… it’s only 2 months (which is the same for elementary and high schools)

But if summer vacations (for high school students) start in mid March and end in early April, that’s less than one month, right?

Glad to be of help…hopefully I can help you people more in the near future.

Well you wouldn’t need to say HR, you probably just introduce yourself as something like “I am Lamuness of year3-C.” Just remember that unlike highschools here where you get to choose your own courses and you run from classroom to classroom between classes, schools in Japan are pretty “fixed” and cover all aspects and you pretty much stick to one classroom like in elementary schools here, except for special equipment classes such as labs/art/phys.ed of course. This way people can easily find you within the school because they can just refer to the classroom that is specifically for say, year3-C.

err…march/april isn’t considered summer yet is it?
for summer vacation you start off school in march/april for a few months for the first term until mid july when you have your first trimester (I am pretty sure it’s trimester, but people can correct me if I am wrong) exams, then you have a month or so of summer vacation (I think it’s shorter than summer vacation in here), then the second fall term begins…

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Lamuness: Thanks again. I didn’t know Japan’s summer lies around July or so (e.g. Australia has opposite seasonal timing compared to the U.S.)

Well I personally think the world is a bit screwed up now in terms of weather. I am currently in the New York/Toronto area, and yesterday I still see flurries and snow…and yes it’s late april.

I don’t think we are in a position to be able to pinpoint when a season starts since things are being more and more ridiculous in terms of weather. Maybe we can still rely on groundhogs popping their heads out when spring comes :stuck_out_tongue:

Hmm, well, Lamuness has pretty much all of it down pat, leaving me with barely anything to say. Still, a few nitpicks.

When you introduce yourself, you don’t actually include the word “year”; that is, you simply say, “_____ of 3-C.” Other students will be able to easily associate the number 3 with “year” and C as the class the speaker is belonging to. So you don’t say “I’m from year2-B,” you say "I’m from 2-B."

There are two major vacations in a typical high school year: summer and winter. As Lamuness said, summer vacations are short, anywhere from 1 to 2 months, usually starting in mid-June or early July and lasting til the middle or end of August. Winter vacation is about 2-3 weeks; if I take this year as an example, it’ll probably start on December 23 and last until the 6th of January.

As to when typical Japanese school years start and end, well, it may depend on the institution. For example, some high schools may start the year slightly earlier and use Golden Week (um, sometime in March, I think) as a substitute for spring break; others, like the one in Season of the Sakura, use it to signify to end of a school year (and give students just a week to prepare for the next).

Hmm… very educational.

the reason why I put in “year” year3-C is because in japanese you do say “nen” which means year in japanese when you refer to yourself.

And golden week is pretty much right now actually, late april/early may.

But then if you went with that translation method, it’ll really be “year3-classC” because the full phrase is “san-nen-C-gumi.” I personally think that’s really clunky, so I prefer to drop “year” and “class” altogether.

And as for about Golden Week, I can only say…oops . But my previous point still stands.

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And golden week is pretty much right now actually, late april/early may.

Heh, the only reason I know it's Golden Week is that it's an important time locally since we get such a large influx of Japanese tourists that we really, really need. (And every morning I hear the current Yen exchange ratio, kinda tells you how important it is to the local economy! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] )

Speaking of Golden Week: If I didn’t follow this thread, I wouldn’t have known the significance of this:

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—Information—
Omron’s offices in Japan will be shut down for the holidays from 4/27 to 5/6. Inquiries concerning the Omron web site or Omron’s products will be answered in the order they are received once work commences on May 7. We apologize for any inconvenience.

Question: Are allergies (pollen allergies, not food allergies) common in Japan? I suspect it’s not, but I just want to make sure. Thanks.

Hey do you guys know that kids in Japan have to wear a uniform 6 days a week . That’s why in Shinjuku, they close a whole road on sundays so kids can dress up like they want and have a piece of individuality .

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Hey do you guys know that kids in Japan have to wear a uniform 6 days a week

They have 5 full days of school from Mon - Fri, then half a day of school on Sat, right? I think I saw that in True Love.

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[quote] Originally posted by Serio:
Hey do you guys know that kids in Japan have to wear a uniform 6 days a week

They have 5 full days of school from Mon - Fri, then half a day of school on Sat, right? I think I saw that in True Love.

[This message has been edited by BigRocket (edited 04-29-2002).] [/quote] Out of my personal opinion, that sucks [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/mad.gif[/img]. Everybody knows that kids should have their Saturday morning cartoons, ne [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img].

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Originally posted by Serio:
Out of my personal opinion, that sucks [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/mad.gif[/img]. Everybody knows that kids should have their Saturday morning cartoons, ne [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img].

Not necessarily. The anime schedules that run from Mon-Fri more than make up for it.

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Originally posted by woodelf:
(...)Bugs Bunny (really a cartoon made for adults in the 40's) seems to have set the plot for most US animation.
Well, cartoons were originally for adults... Ever watched the anti-german propaganda Disney of the 40ies? Or the famous Betty Boop which was the incarnation of the after-war US? Too bad most people are very uncultured about the history of cartoons and think animated pictures are for kids... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/frown.gif[/img]

Yeah . Anime was greatly influenced by those cartoons .