Refresh my memory, Lamuness

i never said he was my soulmate, it was everyone who responded who said he sounded like my soulmate…i just think we are really good together…

i’ve known him for more than 4 years, but we only became close about 4 months ago…

and here’s an interesting twisty question for you all…and an update on my situation…he tried ot break up with me again tonight and we had a huge discussion and eventualyl worked things out and are ok, but he laid a big bomb on me…i’d like to know if you guys agree with him, or he is just nuts…first of all, he says he cares about me as more than a friend SOMETIMES, he is generally happy with me and loves spending time with me, we have great physical chemistry, and there’s no reason he can think of why he should want to leave me, he just has a ‘gotta get outta this’ feeling that doesn’t make any kind of sense…does this sound like committment or fear issues on his part or does this sound liek there’s no hope for us? i personally interpret it as things are developing slowly and he’s scared cause he has been hurt before

second, he said that he wants to know when things upset me…the way i work usually, is when something upsets me, i think about it for a while and decide if it is worth being upset about, then if it is, i think some more about how to reasonably and rationally talk about it, then i will talk about it…this usually results in me talking about the thing about a week later and most of the time seeming like nothing bothers me, because i usually decide that 90% of stuff isn’t worth being upset about…he says he wants to know when something initially upsets me, not to blow up or anything, but to kind of go “OK, this pisses me off I am gonna go think about it now” and to let him in a little more when i get depressed or upset about something…he told me i am like a vulcan and he feels like he could come up and punch me in the face and it wouldn’t bug me and it’s freaky…

what do you think? cause i am totally floored by that…i spent years in therapy trying to learn how to beh ealthy and reasonable and rational and now he says i am TOO rational

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Originally posted by Nandemonai:
I'm a big fan of yuri, but I don't know anything about this Dirty Pair stuff...

How dare do you call the [b]Lovely Angels[\\b]?

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Originally posted by Nandemonai:
I'm a big fan of yuri, but I don't know anything about this Dirty Pair stuff...
Oh Lain! You don't know about Kei&Yuri?! Owwww, young people nowadays don't know their classics... *grins*
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Originally posted by olf_le_fol:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nandemonai:
[b] I'm a big fan of yuri, but I don't know anything about this Dirty Pair stuff...

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Oh Lain! You don't know about Kei&Yuri?! Owwww, young people nowadays don't know their classics... *grins*

Ah, Ah, Ah, do we not mean The Lovely Angels?

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Miss…er…Mister… (Thanks Kumiko! Now I’m paranoid!) Ladyphoenix, what’s your website’s URL?

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Originally posted by Doug:
Ah, Ah, Ah, do we not mean The Lovely Angels?

I hope, we didn't, because otherwise, they would already have appeared and, ....

Well, let's say, we would'nt be able to read this wonderful thread anymore. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/frown.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by Nobody:
I'm sorry to hear that. I kind of have those problems, too. Not to compare my paltry problems with yours. I have a tough time comprehending what others are saying. It isn't a hearing problem. It has to do with the messed up wiring I have in my brain. Also, while I don't have "Aspergers syndrome" or Social Anxiety Disorder (I'm not sure if they are the same thing or not), I do have alot of problem with social situations. As I mentioned, I am natually socially inept. Also, for various reasons, I grew up pretty much without too much contact with others. So, I never developed social skills. That leaves me uncomfortable in social situations. I always feel so drained after them. Since I don't like them, I avoid them. Since I avoid them, I don't develop any social skills. Since I don't develop any social skills, etc.. The cycle keeps repeating itself.

Anyway, I know my situation isn't as bad as yours, but I do understand, a little, what you must be going through. It would be kind of funny if we ever met. We'd both be going, "What? What?" You because you can't hear what I'm saying, and I because I can't comprehend what you're saying.

Look on the bright side. I'm sure you look better than me. That probably makes up the difference. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]


Ah, I don't know if my life is tougher thna yours or not, and it doens't really matter, do it? We aren't having a "most miserabile life" comptetion here, or do we? [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]. But even through I do have some social problems, as I said, I can't really complain about my life. so far I've lived a fairly good life, and althrough it could be better now, I'm happy as it is now anyway [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img].

You're right that it could be funny if we meet [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]. but rather than say anthing, would it be easier to writte down things on a papper instead? I'm no good at _speaking_ english, just writte it (actually, if i tried to speak english, you people would laugh even harder than when I do my famous spelling errors [img]http://imbiss-coding.de/smiliez.de/smz/nsrtrts/nsrtrts_132.gif[/img] )

Well, if you don't know much about Aspergers syndrome, then feel free to ask me about it if you're curious [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by Nobody:
Here's something for you, [b]Spectator Beholder, to make up for subjecting you to Finnish.

"Han stod rak--som en snurra sÂl‰nge piskan viner. Han var blygsam--i kraft av robusta ˆverl‰gsenhetsk‰nslor. Han var icke ansprÂksfull: vad han str‰vade efter var endast frihet frÂn oro, och andras nederlag gladde honom mer ‰n egna segrar. Han r‰ddade livet genom att aldrig vÂga det.--Och klagade ˆver att han icke var fˆrstÂdd!"
--DAG HAMMARSKJ÷LD, Markings

Of course, if you try anything, I have more Finnish where that came from. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img][/b]


[img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img].

Hmm, sounds like the book - or whatever it is quoted from - is old, since it is in "old swedish" (from somewhere in the beginning of the 19th century, or somewhere in the 18th century, I'd say)...

Don't really see how it could help me with Finnish, however. Besides, I wouldn't have much use for Finnish, I'd have much more use for Japanese [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img].

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Originally posted by Spectator Beholder:
Well, if you don't know much about Aspergers syndrome, then feel free to ask me about it if you're curious [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

The first question, coming to my ming, after reading your informations about the syndrome:

How could you feel comfortable at the medieval week? Were they all your acquaintances?

No! I don't want to make fun of you (at least, not this time), but your explanation does not quite mix with the fact, you were there a week among strangers.

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Originally posted by Unicorn:
The first question, coming to my ming, after reading your informations about the syndrome:

How could you feel comfortable at the medieval week? Were they all your acquaintances?

No! I don't want to make fun of you (at least, not this time), but your explanation does not quite mix with the fact, you were there a week among strangers.


Well, I were mostly with my family during the week. And while I can be among crowds and other people, it's much harder for me to dseek contact with them (talk with them, etc). Look at my mom, for example... We went to Clematins, a medevial resturant in the city... It's always lots of people there, and you are almost guranteed to have some table mates there... for my mom, it's very easy to talk with them, seeking contact with them, for for me, it's not. I haven't had many friends through life because of that, and even when I get friends, it still feels kind of uncomfortable, since I'm not sure what others except from me or how I should act. For others, that seems to come natually, for for me, it doesn't.

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i totally understand, spec beholder, because i suffer from a lot of anxiety disorders…generalized anxiety, social anxiety, panic disorder, severe agoraphobia…i’m on medication for them and have been in therapy for years, and it doesn’t rule my life the way it used to, but every day is still a struggle to interact with the world…i understand how you can go to a medieval week…if you really look forward to something enough, you find a way to overcome it…and sometimes, you just have a good day or a good week where it doesn’t affect you as much…also, if you have someone with you that you feel moreo r less comfortable with, you can kind of follow them around and enjoy the surroundings at your own pace…i love going to king richard’s fair in massachusetts with a friend…i usually end up crying at the end of the day, just to get all the stress out, but i enjoy every minute of the day until that point

and thanks for all your input on my situation…i try to take things as they come, and not dwell on past mistakes, but to move on and tackle each day…i talked to my mom and she thinks that brian and i made a lot of progress last night, because he finally articulated to me that he needs to be let into my world a little more and know that i’m human and have doubts and fears too, and that that shows that he does want to try to have something a little deeper than just casual relations, and that it is very possible he was intimidated and shut off from me because he felt i was too positively off in a fantasy world of optimism and didn’t live in reality or need him at all and it was kind of freaky

i am sorry if i talk about this too much…feel free to tell me to shut up at any time…i’m just dealing with some very new experiences with this relationship and don’t understand a lot of things…with my anxiety and my upbringing, i didn’t learn a lot of social graces either, so this is all new territory for me, and i am finding all your responses very insightful and helpful

and scuddman, i can assure you, i am definately a female

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Okay lets see if I got all this after reading that. This is the off-topic path as I see it. PREPARE FOR A MASSIVE RUN ON SENTENCE We got Japanese Text box question, leading to “Why Lamuness doesn’t like Kumiko”, leading to who is not a Goddess anymore and who gets the now vacant spot, leading to if there even is a vacant spot debate, leading to a Misc. Kumiko found on yahoo who won a award in 1998, leading to Math proofs on convincing people that 2+2=5, leading to Scuddman,Fxho, and Nobody beginning a math debate, leading to Chickens running around with their head cut off and how long this usually lasts, leading to how proud Spectator will be with this topic, leading to Lesbian strippers (a staple of every good off-topic thread), leading to goat sacrifice, leading to fun with smiley faces, leading to consequences of recieving a kiss from ladyphoenix, leading to random poetry qoutes, leading to ladyphoenix boyfriend rants…
My goddess, this might very well be the most off-topic post I have ever seen.
Good job!

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Originally posted by ladyphoenix:
i totally understand, spec beholder, because i suffer from a lot of anxiety disorders....generalized anxiety, social anxiety, panic disorder, severe agoraphobia...i'm on medication for them and have been in therapy for years, and it doesn't rule my life the way it used to, but every day is still a struggle to interact with the world....i understand how you can go to a medieval week....if you really look forward to something enough, you find a way to overcome it...and sometimes, you just have a good day or a good week where it doesn't affect you as much...also, if you have someone with you that you feel moreo r less comfortable with, you can kind of follow them around and enjoy the surroundings at your own pace...i love going to king richard's fair in massachusetts with a friend....i usually end up crying at the end of the day, just to get all the stress out, but i enjoy every minute of the day until that point

and thanks for all your input on my situation...i try to take things as they come, and not dwell on past mistakes, but to move on and tackle each day...i talked to my mom and she thinks that brian and i made a lot of progress last night, because he finally articulated to me that he needs to be let into my world a little more and know that i'm human and have doubts and fears too, and that that shows that he does want to try to have something a little deeper than just casual relations, and that it is very possible he was intimidated and shut off from me because he felt i was too positively off in a fantasy world of optimism and didn't live in reality or need him at all and it was kind of freaky

i am sorry if i talk about this too much...feel free to tell me to shut up at any time...i'm just dealing with some very new experiences with this relationship and don't understand a lot of things...with my anxiety and my upbringing, i didn't learn a lot of social graces either, so this is all new territory for me, and i am finding all your responses very insightful and helpful [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

and scuddman, i can assure you, i am definately a female [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

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I can only hope that the two of you do work this out. For in a way, I can understand you and your boyfriend. But...

WAIT!!!

New experiences...? But didn't you have former relationships prier to the one your in now?

And here's a question I might as well add to this amazing topic of ours... How do you guys feel about long distance relationships? Do you thing it can work out, and if it can? How would you guys go about it? What would you need to do to have it work out? Any input would be much appricated.

Anyway... I guess what I'm saying is that communication is the key to any relationship. Well at least accourting to this website. www.askmen.com *shrugs*

But even if it doesn't work out. I'm sure everyone here will be there for you. Except for me probably... I'll probably just go up to you and put my hand on your shoulder and nod my head when you look at me. Then just leave without saying a word...

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Originally posted by Nobody:
Actually, I give it three months, with at least two reconciliations after the original break up.

You wanna bet on that?!!! LOL [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by ladyphoenix:
and here's an interesting twisty question for you all....and an update on my situation...he tried ot break up with me again tonight and we had a huge discussion and eventualyl worked things out and are ok, but he laid a big bomb on me...i'd like to know if you guys agree with him, or he is just nuts...first of all, he says he cares about me as more than a friend SOMETIMES, he is generally happy with me and loves spending time with me, we have great physical chemistry, and there's no reason he can think of why he should want to leave me, he just has a 'gotta get outta this' feeling that doesn't make any kind of sense....does this sound like committment or fear issues on his part or does this sound liek there's no hope for us? i personally interpret it as things are developing slowly and he's scared cause he has been hurt before

Keep in mind that I am pulling all of this out of my ass. Keep in mind that I have never had a significant other nor ever had interest in seeking one out.

This does not sound like a commitment issue or a fear issue. If they really were commitment issues, I doubt he would have said it so obviously. And if it was fear-motivated, I doubt he would have brought it up. (Although, this did only come up via a breakup attempt...)

If I had to hazard a guess, and again this is completely out of my ass...

It sounds like depression. If I am understanding you correctly, then he really does like you. And he knows you really like him. Thus attempting to break up sounds like self-destructive behavior to me. If I had to give an opinion (and since you asked, and you're a friend of mine, I do have to give it), I would say that either he thinks so low of himself (and ironically enoug, the fact that he's so depressed would contribute here) that he wants to get away from you to "protect" you, or he unconsciously is directly inflicting pain on himself and is too depressed to notice what it's doing to you.

In either case, this would be my advice:

1) You are not a therapist. Well, I mean, you could be one, I don't know you, but even if you were you're too close to him for therapy to work. Don't try to fix it, and CERTAINLY don't tell him this or anything like this. And don't tell him he needs therapy either--I pulled this out of my ass, remember, and not only could I be wrong, but even if I'm dead on he probably won't like being told he needs mental help.

2) Don't break up with him until it literally is to the point where he is going to drag you down with him (at which point you can't help him anyway).

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second, he said that he wants to know when things upset me....the way i work usually, is when something upsets me, i think about it for a while and decide if it is worth being upset about, then if it is, i think some more about how to reasonably and rationally talk about it, then i will talk about it....this usually results in me talking about the thing about a week later and most of the time seeming like nothing bothers me, because i usually decide that 90% of stuff isn't worth being upset about....he says he wants to know when something initially upsets me, not to blow up or anything, but to kind of go "OK, this pisses me off I am gonna go think about it now" and to let him in a little more when i get depressed or upset about something...he told me i am like a vulcan and he feels like he could come up and punch me in the face and it wouldn't bug me and it's freaky...

what do you think? cause i am totally floored by that....i spent years in therapy trying to learn how to beh ealthy and reasonable and rational and now he says i am TOO rational

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Umm...I think I can see where he's coming from--immediate feedback is better than feedback a week later.

But being 21, and remembering pretty accurately what I used to be like when I was a teenager (read: a moron), I can say this: people get upset about the damnedest stupidest things that, even a short while later, make no sense to them at all. I know *I* did, and I used to occasionally just blow up and then have to apologize for it later. Not getting ticked off is better.

Of course, I also dealt with being made fun of in grade school by learning that most people can be safely ignored and thus living in my own little world, so my social skills aren't anything you want to base an opinion off of.

So, umm, I guess my advice would be...controlling your emotions is better than the other way around, but getting back to your boyfriend a week later probably isn't exactly convenient for him.

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Originally posted by Nobody:
I do have alot of problem with social situations. As I mentioned, I am natually socially inept. Also, for various reasons, I grew up pretty much without too much contact with others. So, I never developed social skills. That leaves me uncomfortable in social situations. I always feel so drained after them. Since I don't like them, I avoid them. Since I avoid them, I don't develop any social skills. Since I don't develop any social skills, etc.. The cycle keeps repeating itself.

...you're reminding me of myself here...

Well, I'm sort of different. I get along just fine in social situations, I just get along almost equally well out of them. As a result I don't go out of my way to seek social contact at all (and I mean that more closely to literally than you probably think).

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Originally posted by Nobody:
Yep, I am all for big rants. It just that getting lectured at about the same thing over and over just gets redundant, just gets redundant, just gets redundant. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

I'm sorry, what was that?

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Originally posted by olf_le_fol:
___Originally posted by Nandemonai:
___I'm a big fan of yuri, but I don't know anything about this Dirty Pair stuff...[

Oh Lain! You don't know about Kei&Yuri?! Owwww, young people nowadays don't know their classics... *grins*


*groans*

Nobody seems to have ANY idea what I'm talking about. Anyone who knows Japanese care to elaborate?


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Originally posted by ladyphoenix:
i totally understand, spec beholder, because i suffer from a lot of anxiety disorders....generalized anxiety, social anxiety, panic disorder, severe agoraphobia...i'm on medication for them and have been in therapy for years, and it doesn't rule my life the way it used to, but every day is still a struggle to interact with the world....i understand how you can go to a medieval week....if you really look forward to something enough, you find a way to overcome it...and sometimes, you just have a good day or a good week where it doesn't affect you as much...

*blinks*

Wow.

Having taken a course in ab psych, I know what most of those terms mean. That's...rough.

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Originally posted by ladyphoenix:
i am sorry if i talk about this too much...feel free to tell me to shut up at any time...i'm just dealing with some very new experiences with this relationship and don't understand a lot of things...with my anxiety and my upbringing, i didn't learn a lot of social graces either, so this is all new territory for me, and i am finding all your responses very insightful and helpful [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

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Have you told Brian what you've told us? Everything you've put here he needs to have heard. From you.

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Originally posted by ladyphoenix:
and scuddman, i can assure you, i am definately a female [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

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And just how would you know?