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Originally posted by Nandemonai:
I have seen what I believe to be the complete CG set for this game; and I do not believe it has CG shots with multiple characters in them very much at all.
I did not think so either... but then, again, that wasn't my original quesation, it was more like "how often does the CG events appear?"
Ah. That I couldn’t tell you, as I got the CG off of a CG rip site. (Yeah, I know, they’re technically illegal; I view CG from games not available in English as equivalent to fansubs, and I buy games that are in English.)
Ok, I see what you are saying now…
Nope, groupie CGs…I think there is only one of those in the entire game where it has more than one girl in it. As for just simply CG events, many events are actually done “on the map” rather than just one full screen CG (which is another advantage with RPGs), and some events are actually hard to portray if you only use a full-screen CG.
…just a different way of story-telling I suppose
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oh, I played the demo, but quite a while ago though
[This message has been edited by Lamuness (edited 07-27-2002).]
Lamuness:
Hmm, I see… Ojk, I was just curious about if there was any CG events, but I can see why most events would take place on the map, rather than in the form of CG’s (if they had mae it so, I guess that they’d have had to do numberous CG events for various parties and events). Hmm, and what about script and interaction with the other characters? I still remember BG: Shadows of Amn, which was wonderful in the aspect of interacting with the other NCP’s in your part, and had good script for various parts too… Not only that, certain parts of the script would only appear if you had one or two certain NCP’s in you pary). I hope that Brave Soul will be kind athe same…
If you have played the demo, then do tell em one thing… what is the main goal of the demo, just to “test” the characters? And what about that old man and the man who is standing almost besides the stairs down to the ruin?
Nandemonai:
Don’t worry, I don’t think anyone will blame you for doing anything ilelgal just because that you looked at some CG’s. The one who laid them out is the one who did something illgal, and as long as you’re planing to buy the game, no need for any guilt . Besides, I hardly think you’re the only one here who’ve done that. It’s up to yourself how much you want to “spoil” (you always have to remember that the more you “peep” the less surpises in the game, and the less enjoyment of playing the game, or so I think )
…in fact, I can say that all events take place on the map; the CGs are intergrated into them.
Certain events are triggered only when certain characters are in your party, for example takuya’s guest appearance. It also applies for battles too. For example, if let’s say the dungeon has lots of boobie traps, and Ruby is in your party, she will find a way to disable all of the traps to make your life easier.
For the demo, I totally forgot what is in the demo, but it pretty much has no goal/objective except to allow the player to experience what the game is like in terms of gameplay, that’s all
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Originally posted by Spectator Beholder:
Nandemonai:Don't worry, I don't think anyone will blame you for doing anything ilelgal just because that you looked at some CG's. The one who laid them out is the one who did something illgal, and as long as you're planing to buy the game, no need for any guilt :). Besides, I hardly think you're the only one here who've done that. It's up to yourself how much you want to "spoil" (you always have to remember that the more you "peep" the less surpises in the game, and the less enjoyment of playing the game, or so I think :))
I don't care about the legality; I agree that no one will bust me for it (if it even turns out to be illegal). I worry more that people on the board here will misunderstand and feel I am doing something somehow unethical. I remember at least Kumiko used to rant about...well, about a lot of things ;) but in particular she would periodically post rants about how the Japanese companies see the rampant Internet piracy of their CG as being a Bad Thing.
Personally, I have no problem with someone in the States downloading Japan-only game CG off of a site. I do have major issues with pay sites using these CG sets to generate revenue and would never sign up for one.
Lamuness:
Hmm, is that, so? Okay, then… Sounds cool . Hmm, I think that was all questions I have (for now) about Brave Soul, so I’ll just walk back to my cave and sleep until the game is out
Nandemonai:
Well, I do in fact think that it’s kind aunetical to lay out those pictures at the Net, and I can understand why the Japanese companies aren’t exactly happy about it, as well as the original artists. Besides I can’t understand why it seems like those people feel like “If I don’t put out EVERY picture in that game, the world will be doomed!!”. there’s a few sites that I have more respect for (even if it doens’t necrssiary mean that I like them) than others becuase that when they put out any pictures, they just put out a few selected pictures from every game they post pics from, not ALL of them, which is good, since it can be regarded as something more as a “preview” for that gmae in that case. Sure, it might be done without the companies permission, but as long as they don’t put out all pictures from the game(s) when they posyt pictures, then I don’t really care.
But I agree with you abour paysites… Now, that can really be called "making money of someone else’s hard work
But as I said, I doubt anyone will hold any kind of grudge towards you for looking at those CG’s. It’s the one who laid them out that is at fault, and it’s your choice if you wan to have many surpises/unexcepted events when you play the game or not. And as I said, I think most people here have done thÈ same; looked at a few game CG’s at the net.
[This message has been edited by Spectator Beholder (edited 07-27-2002).]
Well, I’ve now played through the Brave Soul demo a couple of times, and so far my impression is quite good. One thing I really like about the game is the art. Some might say that the art isn’t much compared tot he art in the newest games nowadays, but I like it, and seeing the art makes me feel kinda nostalgic, somehow . But combat, the game feels a litte unbalanced, since it seems like most of the characters in the game have some kind of ranged attack to use, with the exceptation of Marine, and maybe Cobden (since he in the demo movie is seen using a morning star, I’d assume that he is the “close combat” type) and a party using mostly ranged attacks can, it seems blast away lots of enemies without ever being touched, therefore making things a little TOO easy, maybe.
Besides, Lamuness, you might want to check the AI about oen thing: one of my NCP’s DID do soemthing stupid. When I was traveling in the ruin with Carrol, there was sone enemies on the other side of the wall. Since we was on the other side of the wall, we could of course not reach those enemies, but what do you think Carrol did? She shoot away her fireballs straight at the wall… so perhaps you should make sure that they know that “there is a wall there, I cannot get through it, so I shouldn’t shoot at it”… It might have happaned just in my case, or been just in the demo, but you might want to check that (unless, of course, you call wasting fireballs on shooting on a wall as a smart thing to do ).
Yeah, it did happen to me too, but to my advantage. Not with fireballs, but with another non-shooting type magic which actually killed the enemy on the other side. It seems like magic attacks have no boundaries or obstacles. Take it as an advantage for you…if carrol learns a certain spell that has not shooting-oriented 
But I will try to talk with the japanese Crowd staff and see if they are willing to fix it.
[This message has been edited by Lamuness (edited 07-28-2002).]
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Originally posted by Lamuness:
Yeah, it did happen to me too, but to my advantage. Not with fireballs, but with another non-shooting type magic which actually killed the enemy on the other side. It seems like magic attacks have no boundaries or obstacles. Take it as an advantage for you...if carrol learns a certain spell that has not shooting-oriented :P[This message has been edited by Lamuness (edited 07-28-2002).]
Well, when another in my party (not Carrol) uses her "Ice blast" (I'm making a guess here) which makes Ice spikes appear under the enemies feet, it doesn't seem to matter if it is on the other side of the wall or not. But missile magic that goes directly out of her body, if you get my meaning, will hit the wall and get wasted.