Downloads Page

I am currently revamping the downloads pages for current titles, as well as adding a new XC2 downloads page. A couple of stuff will be inaccessible for now.

Currently only the stuff on the “first row” are accessible; sorry I am getting a headache out of this, trying to figure out Dave E and Kumiko’s awfully sloppy and inefficient HTML coding.

So progress will be a bit slow for me, but please bear with me…sorry

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Originally posted by Lamuness:
I am currently revamping the downloads pages for current titles, as well as adding a new XC2 downloads page. A couple of stuff will be inaccessible for now.

Currently only the stuff on the "first row" are accessible; sorry I am getting a headache out of this, trying to figure out Dave E and Kumiko's awfully sloppy and inefficient HTML coding.

So progress will be a bit slow for me, but please bear with me...sorry


I know what you mean about messy html. I'm in the process of cleaning some myself.

I just hate messy and poorly written code in general. I can’t believe how many times I’ve had to fix bugs in a vendor’s scripts. You would think if my company’s paying thousands of dollars for their software, they’d at least give us a simple install script that works. (Sorry, it’s been a long week… )

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Originally posted by ekylo:
I just hate messy and poorly written code in general. I can't believe how many times I've had to fix bugs in a vendor's scripts. You would think if my company's paying thousands of dollars for their software, they'd at least give us a simple install script that works. (Sorry, it's been a long week... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img] )

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Well, I must say I am no expert at programming at all since I am not in computer science or any related major.

Anyhow, one of my pet peeves is that I hate frontpage/dreamweaver when making web pages because they just make too many unnecessary codes. I do all my HTML coding in DOS, which means I do everything “raw” and just type all the codes myself with the keyboard. I am also converting the downloads page into one big XML code, so I have to type most of the stuff from scratch…and having 9 download pages to deal with…hohoho

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Originally Posted by woodelf
But alas you allways have to pay extra for bug fixes. Look at your typical OS. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/frown.gif[/img]
That's why I no longer use the "typical OS". Linux is pretty awsome, I'll *never* downgrade back to any version of Windows. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] (I'm looking forward to the time that bishoujo games can be run on Linux [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img])

And yes, hard coding HTML pages is the way to go! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

The advantage of coding HTML yourself is that you take total control of everything you make, not the software.

The bottom “row” is done.
X-Change 2 downloads page is up
Added Brave Soul wallpaper
Added SnowDrop OP and ED songs for download

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I just hate messy and poorly written code in general.

That pretty much describes anything I do. sigh ;;

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do all my HTML coding in DOS, which means I do everything “raw” and just type all the codes myself with the keyboard.

I used to do everything myself as well, but then came the great “lazier than a sloth and CBF affliction.” No I don’t use software to write html, I just stopped making web pages. ^-

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Originally posted by woodelf:

While I don’t like hand codeing html, at least you don’t get all that crap in your web page like “Made by bloat-ware 3000…”
[This message has been edited by woodelf (edited 06-16-2002).]

Bloat-ware 3000 has feelings too,you made it cry a river, you big meanie.

Heh, while I agree that Linux is better than Windows, I personally prefer Free BSD over Linux. I wouldn’t run Windows at all but for the various appolications that only run on it. I can’t wait till I can save up and buy my own UNIX server. (And knowing me, turn it into a game server or something…)

Actually, Lamuness-san, I’m surprised you do your coding in DOS. I hate to say it but I’m starting to run into CS people who don’t even know how to run DOS commands! Then again, I’m a UNIX guy so I really don’t have a problem using command prompt commands but I still can’t believe I run into NT administrators who don’t know how to run an editior at the DOS prompt!

Mainly because I was heavily influenced with DOS training while I was in high school, now I don’t think I can live without it. When I tried to install Japanese WinMe I realized that it doesn’t use a true DOS environment so I immediately went back down to Japanese win98.

I rarely use explorer to manage my files; I mainly use dos commands. For some reason my I am faster with typing on the keyboard than using a mouse and figuring out where to click. Wildcards (? and *) in DOS commands are particularly useful when dealing with large amount of files. Even for simple renaming of file extensions for a large number of files…which is quicker?

1. clicking on a file, right click, select “rename”, highlight the extension, fix it, click outside the text dialogue area, and do that for the rest of the files
2. “ren *.wav *.mp3” (or whatever extension)

[This message has been edited by Lamuness (edited 06-16-2002).]

i love dos, personally…i remember having a huge fit when everything started requiring windows and you couldn’t get DOS versions of games anymore…then again, my mom also had windows 3.0 on her system, which was a big bag of ropey goat chunks

i still use dos sometimes, as some of my older bishoujo games require them…i don’t think i’ll ever upgrade to Win XP, because there’s no DOS! wahhhhhhh…

Just want to thank for that Brave Soul wallpaper! It looks great as my desktop.

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Originally posted by Lamuness:
I rarely use explorer to manage my files; I mainly use dos commands. For some reason my I am faster with typing on the keyboard than using a mouse and figuring out where to click. Wildcards (? and *) in DOS commands are particularly useful when dealing with large amount of files. Even for simple renaming of file extensions for a large number of files....which is quicker?

1. clicking on a file, right click, select "rename", highlight the extension, fix it, click outside the text dialogue area, and do that for the rest of the files
2. "ren *.wav *.mp3" (or whatever extension)


Heh, well lots of people don't realize that gui's are "easier" but not necessarily "quicker" or more "efficient". My co-worker was ragging on me for doing so many things through the command line prompt that we did a challenge once. I was able to create and configure 5 accounts in the time it took him to create one through the gui interface.

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Originally posted by ekylo:
Heh, well lots of people don't realize that gui's are "easier" but not necessarily "quicker" or more "efficient". My co-worker was ragging on me for doing so many things through the command line prompt that we did a challenge once. I was able to create and configure 5 accounts in the time it took him to create one through the gui interface.
IMO shell commands are almost always faster and more efficient than GUIs for system manipulation. After all, very often the GUI just call the shell commands... And I'm not talking about all the shell commands without GUI (under WinNT 4.0, for instance... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img])
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Originally posted by Nobody:
Lamuness, you would probably know better than I, however, Kumiko mentioned a while back that [b]I've Sound requested that all of their material be removed from the website, that is why they were removed.

I know you said that Kumiko was liberal with the truth at times, however, it may be something on which you might want to check. I do not know the legalities, however, it may be necessary to remove the Snow Drop themes and any other I've material you may have posted.

I just thought I'd mention it. I'll go shut up now.[/b]


Damn, I forgot about that.
OK I will go check, thanks for reminding me

But something I don't understand is that some Japanese companies that uses I've for music do post short ver of songs for download on their site too. One of my favorite games for last year, Ren-ai Chu! produced by Sagaplanets, also have I've do their OP song, and they currently still have the song for download from their website, and also Crowd did post the OP song for "Miss You" awhile ago. EMU, Crowd's sister company, also have their songs posted for download. Therefore I am not quite sure if it's about I've not allowing anybody to post their material on the web, considering that Peapri has the international license for the games we do, but I might be wrong in this case; I am only speculating. It might be because we are a 3rd party group and things work differently for us, but personally I am a bit confused too since Japanese companies do post their songs for download. Anyhow, I will have Peter check the legality of things. I may have to decrease the quality of the MP3 or sth, or maybe Kumiko is right all along and we do have to take down all I've material since we are a 3rd party...anyhow we will see.

I will take them down temporarily for now just to play safe.

[This message has been edited by Lamuness (edited 06-28-2002).]

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Originally posted by ekylo:
I just hate messy and poorly written code in general. I can't believe how many times I've had to fix bugs in a vendor's scripts. You would think if my company's paying thousands of dollars for their software, they'd at least give us a simple install script that works. (Sorry, it's been a long week... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img] )

Yes, but that would be reasonable. Now why would you expect reasonable behavior without having a past history to rely on?

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Originally posted by Lamuness:
Well, I must say I am no expert at programming at all since I am not in computer science or any related major.

Anyhow, one of my pet peeves is that I hate frontpage/dreamweaver when making web pages because they just make too many unnecessary codes. I do all my HTML coding in DOS, which means I do everything "raw" and just type all the codes myself with the keyboard. I am also converting the downloads page into one big XML code, so I have to type most of the stuff from scratch...and having 9 download pages to deal with...hohoho


I am a comp sci major, so I can understand your pain.

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Originally posted by ladyphoenix:
i love dos, personally...i remember having a huge fit when everything started requiring windows and you couldn't get DOS versions of games anymore...then again, my mom also had windows 3.0 on her system, which was a big bag of ropey goat chunks [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

i still use dos sometimes, as some of my older bishoujo games require them...i don't think i'll ever upgrade to Win XP, because there's no DOS! wahhhhhhh.....


There's no DOS? No command line AT ALL?

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Originally posted by Nandemonai:
There's no DOS? No command line AT ALL?

I am no windows techie, so hopefully someone can explain this better than me...but doesn't WinXP and WinMe (well NT and 2000 too to some extent) NOT built upon a DOS system? At least that's the reason why I went back to Japanese win98 when I found that out after installing Japanese winMe for only 10 minutes

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Originally posted by Lamuness:
I am no windows techie, so hopefully someone can explain this better than me...but doesn't WinXP and WinMe (well NT and 2000 too to some extent) NOT built upon a DOS system? At least that's the reason why I went back to Japanese win98 when I found that out after installing Japanese winMe for only 10 minutes

To my knowledge (correct me if I am wrong)...

Windows 95 carried true DOS support. Windows 98/98SE/ME had a form of virtual DOS. In essence, the Win9x series was built up from and around the DOS environment. It was meant to be a 32-bit OS with backwards compatibility.

On the other hand, Windows NT/2000/XP have an entirely different code-base than the Win9x series. They do not any form of true DOS support. Instead, they kind of have a form of virtual DOS support (it seemed to be a slightly smaller subset of the Win9x virtual DOS).

And, yes, Windows NT/2000/XP do have command lines. In fact, Windows XP has two forms of command lines, cmd.exe and command.com. The exact differences I don't know. Just that one supports long filenames whereas the other does not.