No yandere in “SHUFFLE!”.
OTOH, he may want to try u‹âFv, u21 -TwoOne-v, uŒŽ•Pv (kinda) and uCross+Channelv (sorta).
One could also say Sakura in uFate/stay nightv closes it.
[ 11-15-2007, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: OLF, i.e. Olf Le Fol ]
Ah… so the anime has yandere, but not the original.
Question from me though… going by how the term is defined, does someone like Elsa from Gunslinger Girl count as a yandere - or for that matter all the Getai cyborgs (considering any and all of them could go through the same situation if forced too)?
You know, just like a “tsundere” isn’t just “any violent (and dishonest) girl”, a “yandere” isn’t just “any insane girl”. “Psycho Bitch” would be wrong to define a “yandere”. “Cute psycho” would be more correct; “cute who turns psycho” even better; “cute who turns psycho because of love (deception)” even closer; “a girl initially (perceived as) being a generally cute and kind character (to everyone) who turns psycho (and usually murderous), especially towards the object of her affection or her perceived rivals, because of love (deception)” the closest I could define in a few words.
[ 11-16-2007, 11:34 PM: Message edited by: OLF, i.e. Olf Le Fol ]
Yea. Although the least you expect the girl to suddenly go insane on ya, the better.
Hmmm… so to be a yandere, does the girl have to actually go murderously insane on the one she loves - or simply have a murderously insane level of love of him?
If you’re not familiar with the series, Gunslinger Girl is about these adolescent girls who’ve had their memories erased due to trouble pasts (some were raped, others were abandoned for dead, a few more imaginably worst). They also happen to be psychologically brainwashed to become trained assassins and augmented with cybernetic bodies. During this process, a girl (called a Getai) is assigned to a handler - whom she is chemically and mentally conditioned to love and obey without question… although they each have a different way of showing it (there’s a tsundere who gives her handler a hard time, although she does it for the attention). To cut to the chase: being trained as living weapons, and having an unhealthy dose of love for their handler, the Getai kinda react to “threats” against their handlers with violent reactions. Ordinarily a Getai doesn’t want to kill her handler (she lives and dies for him) - although there was Elsa…
…tough it’s not really an example, and not even from Akari’s path… blah.
Yandere things are fun to watch on occasion, and the characters themselves tend to be amusing. Though I tend to stay away from those things in games, since I’m a fan of happy endings.
One of my favorites is the psycho girl from Mirai Nikki… she shifts from adorable to uberpsychotic in a matter of seconds. :3
I don’t think Elsa should be considered a yandere. The point about them is the opposition between how they are initially perceived (are?) and how they shift and end (i.e. cute, kind girl turning murderous insane). None of the girls in GSG match this description: even if they turn against their handlers (the way Elsa did – better explored in the anime than the manga, BTW), it’s a logical and not really surprising consequence of their situation (if anyone cares to follow/understand them, of course – what Lauro didn’t) IMO.
People have to understand that “yandere” is a newly coined word in the otaku lingo. Of course, since it being made “popular”, everyone is looking back (and forth) and trying to apply the word to everyone they know (the way the words “tsundere” or “moe” are now overtly used and abusively used to describe everything and the rest), but it started with a pretty exact concept in mind.
…from what I heard at least, because I’m not a 2ch user, nor an otaku therefore not very knowledgeable in their mysterious ways.
[ 11-19-2007, 07:51 AM: Message edited by: OLF, i.e. Olf Le Fol ]