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#29

Yeah. The problem is, in many eroscenes, he is the one yelling “No, no! Please stop!!” instead the girl. Reverse-rape! :lol:

Anyway, i think R.U.R.U.R. is a very good game to buy. But just to make sure if that’s the game you want, download and play the TRIAL VERSION, first. $80 bucks is too much to spend in a eroge you can dislike. :wink:

I the case you are into eroges about shoutas surrounded by older women, check these too:
*Ijikare Noel-kun - The boy becomes the caretaker in a mansion of some relatives. His cousin is a tsuntsuntsundere ojousama who loves to abuse him;
*Boku wa Hitozuma Oneesan - i believe one boy is in love with his best friend’s mother;
*Magical Witch Academy - If i remember well, in this one the boy has a curse in him what causes any girl who look at his eyes to become excited and try to sex him. :slight_smile:

There’s the games from Complets, too. But i don’t know anything about them. I don’t like their artstyle. :roll:

#30

There’s something weird about the game system in RURUR. I thought it would be a pure love renai game in space, but it turned out to be a “screw every girl on the ship” kind of game. The strange thing is, how come I haven’t had any decisions to make yet?

When I check the walkthrough it seems that I have to play the game a second time to make decisions. Does that mean that 98% of the ero scenes are already seen in the first playthrough so the second one just makes some minor superficial changes based on choices?

#31

I played quite a time ago, so i don’t remember very well.

But i think yes, in your first play, there’s not much choices and you get a “basic” ending… you can say you get the “Harem route” first.

But at the second time you play you will have lots of choices what will take you to the different routes from the girls. And you will not just see Ichihiko’s point of view, but the girls’ point of view, too.

Don’t bother too much about the somewhat lack of “pure love” in this game… something like that is fated to happen in a big spaceship filled with hundreds of lonely women and just one man in the entire ship. :lol:

#32

I understood most of what happened in the game. What I don’t understand quite well (since it was kanji nightmare when they got technical) was why exactly Benibana was trying to Kidnap Ichihiko. What sort of “selection” was HAL and so on talking about in regards to Ichihiko? His selection as captain? Finally why does Benibana get a World Breaker and Hina has to fight her with just her autostar. Baiscally I don’t get the reason Benibana and Hina are fighting. It seems like that fight was just kinda shoehorned into the plot at the last second. I’m not sure if the details of the “accident” that led to humanity being killed off the ship were ever revealed. From what I understand, other than the ship’s accident, the rest of humanity died because the sol system blew up in a supernova or something like that. Is that right?

#33

The fact is - without giving too many spoilers - Benibana has another plans to Ichihiko very different than Hina and the others. You will discover what they are when playing her storyline/ending. Besides, Benibana is not fully functional, as you can see by the fact she can’t talk normally.

As for the reason because Hina is fighting her, is because she’s the best suited for that because they both are the same model - warrior droids made to fight wars and kill enemies.

As for the fact why the humanity was killed, i don’t remember very much. What i know is, because Ichihiko is “the last humankind” in a society of robots and androids what exist already for hundred of years, something is fated to happen with him… for good or worse. :wink:

#34

Hmm, I must admit the protagonist is a bit annoying though. I figured out his significance as the “last mankind”. If he wishes he could wake up the rest of the colonists in cold sleep which would cause the REMs of the robots to be sealed again. Thus they lose their sentience and emotions again. Which means he’d never see them again and potentially return to a world of humans where no one cares about him.

#35

Yeah. EMO/crybaby Shoutas should not be voiced… just GAR shounens/seinens. :lol:

As for the truth about the “last mankind”, yeah… something like that. To tell the truth, after they evolved so much, would be better for the robots and androids if there’s no humans around, but would not be fair to the human race to be extinct too. So they let one “sample” free as an “experiment”, to see if the human race deserved another chance or not.

Ichihiko had the fate of the human race in his hands… :roll:

#36

It blows my mind how they can care about him so much. Kinda kills the feeling.

#37

Well, you are not playing it for the shouta, are you? :lol:

#38

Alright I beat it. I definitely think this game was designed for the Hinagiku ending, it was by far the most powerful and satisfying ending making sure to hammer in the fact that the two will be lovers. Somehow through Ichihiko’s sheer force of will, he was able to cause her to be able to accept his DNA and thus bear his children as well. Incredible stuff. It’s too bad about Benibana’s ending, thats probably the saddest ending after Tanpopo and Kobatomugi. But then again, both characters were kinda sideline characters with substantial lack of importance. This game is truly amazing and I’d say the only drawback to it is the shouta and the fact that it is over now.

The best endings are undoubtedly the ones with Mizubasho, Shiro and Hina. My favorite character is definitely Mizubasho. But the manner in which it ended with Hina gives it a lot more completeness. Meanwhile the cool factor goes to the Shiro route. The others are more or less unimportant characters.

Also the Engrish was pretty hilarious. When they talk to their onboard computers you had things like “Shit ass” and “You Have”. Couldn’t they just say “kakunin” like normal people sheesh.

Anyway I’m seriously wonder just how much of a “robot” these “Chapek” girls really are. To me it seems like they are more or less a type of biologically manufactured cyborg. Imagine growing a human being in a vat with cybernetic implants and such. That’s what it kind of reminds me of. Since the inspiration for RURUR is Rossum’s Universal Robots (blindingly obvious considering the androids are all called) “chapeks” I’d say that the distinction between a human and chapek is a very narrow one. I mean especially since Ichihiko was able to become a military use chapek himself in the factory.

I can see that the story is a tribute to many prolific science fiction writers over the years. The designation in their serial numbers is all ISAAC which is probably a reference to Isaac Asimov, the man who created the idea of robots that are gentle and always work towards humanity’s best interest. The deep sense of care and love everyone regards the main character with is definitely this maternal instinct that comes from Asimov’s writings and his 3 laws. Then there’s more obscure references to Stanislaw Lem. All the chapeks refer to their “hearts” as a “LEM”. This is their ability to feel emotion and be self-aware. Then we got even more obscure shit from the 1940s like the “Delameter”. This is the main weapon used by Hina and such, it came from the Lensman series of SF which is very old. Delameters are basically ray guns with adjustable beam widths, you can make a very powerful focused shot or a more wide ray of destruction. Then there’s their use of the word “Drexler” for nanomachines. That is most certainly a tribute to K Eric Drexler, a scientist who specializes in nanotechnology.

Whoever wrote RUR knew their SF very well, they quoted and paid tribute to some truly incredible people who have done much for the SF world. RURUR was definitely a classical style SF story compared to the more modern stuff SF stuff. Another interesting thing is that all the girls are named after flowers?which probably hints at how they were likely “grown” instead of born like a human.

It may have dodged the whole “pure renai” theme with a bit of harem, but I have to see that “???” is the best way to describe the feeling this game gave me. The characters may have followed traditional eroge archetypes and thus aren’t entirely original, ESPECIALLY Shirotsumegusa who is CLEARLY a blatant ripoff of Ayanami Rei. I mean have you seen her spear the Andreas whatever? The whole scene is pretty much Ayanami Rei and the Lance of Longhinus from Evangelion. But I think makers of RURUR set out to make a tribute to just about all the classical SF stories that have originated from the past many of which have been forgotten.

Oh and how could I forgot, Shihou HAL was clearly a 2001 Space Odyssey tribute. Not only was HAL the computer from that movie, but they further designed Shihou HAL to appear like the monolith from 2001. For a game made by Japanese people for Japanese people they have warmed the heart of a foreigner like me by bringing in all these foreign writers and references to their story.

#39

Congrats!! :mrgreen:

Yeah, i thought so too. Now the question is, what Hina will give birth: a human baby or a little android? :lol:

Beni’s ending was very sad indeed. I thought she, Tanpopo and Kobato deserved happy endings too… with or without Ichihiko. :frowning:

I thought the same. And just like you, my favorite character was undoubtely Mizubasho… even thought Hina made laugh a lot with her tsundereness. :wink:

Thanks for the great review, by the way. :smiley: And after such great game, what are you planning to play next?

By the way, you liked eroges like Tsuyokiss and Kimiaru because the strong and tsundere girls, right? Check Minatosoft’s next release, after Kimiaru:

http://www.minatosoft.com/majikoi/index.html

It seems after tsunderes, they will use badass girls now. :lol: Watch out her “balls crusher” move! :wink:

#40

As a huge fan of Takahiro, I naturally found out about Majikoi a long while ago. He’s just a writer but I feel like the artists are reflecting his ideas so it’s almost like this is his game. Otome was a very popular character in Tsuyokiss and I think Majikoi is taking this to it’s logical conclusion. It’s like taking Otome and putting her character to a prism splitting her into these different characters. The ??? type tsundere has gone out of style for me, so I’m glad that majikoi went ahead with the badass mode instead. It seems increasingly games are putting women in the power and hero slot of the story while the protagonist is the one being rescued. I’m very excited about this game. Not to mention I’m getting some serious Gurren Lagann/Kamina vibes from Kazama.

I got RURUR together with Imitation Lover so I’m playing that next. I think that PP should translate imitation lover because I feel as if I’m getting some serious Yume Miru Kusuri vibes from it. It also seems like the perfect kind of game to bring over into english. Good balance of ero and story if the game is anything like RUR. It’s been a while since I’ve seen a game that has the guts to show one of the attainable heroines have sex with someone other than the protagonist and before the protagonist. Personally I’m not really sure who to go for and I find Ichinose to be a very inscrutable girl indeed.

#41

I’ve played Imitation Lover fairly recently (got it along with Gunjyou no Sora wo Koete, Dear My Friend and Shiokaze no Kieru Umi ni), and it did impress me a bit for something that I really thought was going to be a sexromp. Didn’t like it as much as those other three Light games, but those are all awesome, so that’s not really much of a mark against it.

#42

Let me revise what I said, this game is INCREDIBLE. I swear to god I think that the guys at light must’ve been taking notes from Seto Yuki on sex scenes. Ichinose is a very interesting character (I’ll call her Kyou from now on since that’s her first name). What she did in the restaurant scene was just MIND BLOWING. (no pun intended) Never have I seen a girl drink that much semen in an h-game before. Not only are the ero scenes good but it doesn’t follow a set pattern, like in other games. That restaurant scene was just gold, she got him off with her tits then gave him a blowjob and in that one scene alone she got him off 3 times. Great stuff. I find myself hoping she does something like that again. Maybe I have a gokkun fetish.

Well sex aside I think Kyou is pretty incredible stuff, the game has me wondering who spread those rumors about her, clearly they aren’t true. I hope that perhaps a more love-love relationship between her and Itsuki can develop beyond just what she talks about with their bodies being compatible and their relationship being a physical one. She seems to be a lot of fun which is not something I see in an archetype ridden system of eroge.

Only problem is there is a lot more monologue from the protagonist which means I don’t get to listen to people speak as much. I want to know more about what the protagonist is thinking but I cannot get AGTH to work so I can run some of the intense kanji that blows through his mind through my dictionary.

I haven’t even gotten to the second choice yet and I find myself worrying that a good majority of Kyou’s sex scenes will be “wasted” on the beginning of the story. I really would rather hope that they could take this bountiful abundance of scenes and divide up more towards the end of the story so that at least its more romantic when they do these things. I mean the plot hasn’t even diverged to Madoka yet and there have been at least 4, maybe 5 different scenes with Kyou. In most games that’s already the limit for a single character. But wait a minute… since there’s only 3 characters, instead of the usual 5, there might be a whole lot more extra scenes in this story for each character. Quality over quantity! I certainly hope so.

EDIT: I really like the artist for RURUR and Imitation Lover. What other games was he/she involved in? The art seems almost as good as Ni-Theta the Nitro+ artist that I admire.

#43

Mahiru hasn’t worked on much other than Light games. Worked on the older Kurenai, which still looks decent, if a bit dated, nowadays. I’m a bit fonder of Light’s G-Yusuke, personally.

#44

I liked Imitation Lover a lot, too.

I played a rather long time ago so i don’t remember all the details. As far i remember in her first time with Itsuki she was clearly a virgin. Maybe Kiyou herself spread those rumors?

Her scenario remembers me a lot Yuka from Crescendo, with the exception Kiyou was not really selling her body… yet.

Yeah, it was a surprise for me to see this eroge was as story-focused as sex-oriented, too. All the girls in IL had a reason to act the way they were acting… even thought i disliked Iori-sempai scenario because she was being unfair to Itsuki… she was using him in order to forget (or make jealous) Naoya who was a complete jerk womanizer.

Still, basically a Imitation Lover is more than a sex friend, and less than a true lover. So maybe there’s something else i didn’t get it.

By the way, it’s just me or Itsuki looks like a grow-up Ichihiko? :lol:

I liked the artstyle of both these games a lot, too. Actually, that was the reason because i played IL first. I liked the artstyle and because the story was good too, i decided to try RURUR.

Unfortunately i don’t remember any other eroge like these two. Maybe the older Lightsoft games like Siokaze and Gunjou have the same artstyle and good story?

#45

Shiokaze and Gunjou no Sora do have great stories. Different artists, different artstyles, but I think they both look decent; the former has this neat doujin-y look- it’s plainly unpolished, but I still think it looks nice. You can play through it in a day, though :expressionless:

#46

I’m not angry in the slightest bit that they have sprinkled a very generous amount of sex into what is clearly a story driven game. I see nothing wrong with it. Who said you’d have to compromise on sex if you want a good story? This is has really opened my eyes to a new concept I haven’t thought about before.

#47

Well, the only real thing, for me, was that there were so many sex scenes I just started skipping them after a while. I don’t mind the things, but sometimes it felt as if they’re a brief interruption from the story.

But yeah, there’s a number of titles I found to be like that… Dea Ex Machina, Amatsukaze and Koibito Doushide Surukoto Zenbu immediately come to mind.

#48

I really liked Shiokaze’s story as well, but it was definitely a bit on the short side, even for a low budget title. While it didn’t feel rushed, at the same time it would probably have benefited from having a few more scenes (and an increase in the number of CGs too). On the plus side, both the themes and the characters are somewhat different from any other title I’ve played, and unlike most low-budget titles, it’s not an eroero game either.

Since this has kind of become a light thread, I’m wondering if anyone’s played ???. Supposedly, the complete version is even longer than Fate/stay night (4.49 compared to 4.29 megabytes of script), although surely that can’t be right? :? (The list is here)