MinDeadBlood

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#21
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Originally posted by Hhaze:
I like your page . You actually convinced me to give "Gore Screaming Show" a try. Small world, huh?

We Western eroge fans don't have many places we can gather together - even online - so perhaps it was destiny for us to meet. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

I'm a total GSS nut. Not as action driven and slower that MinDeaD, but the story is more involved and the sex is just as "wild". Plus Gore is a riot. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by Hhaze:
By the way, did you ever play "Fantasy Hallway"

Can't say that I have, but I will check it out soon. Baldo keeps pointing out titles that appeal to me - he knows my weakness is twincest and goth titles. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

#22
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Originally posted by Nargrakhan:
Can't say that I have, but I will check it out soon. Baldo keeps pointing out titles that appeal to me - he knows my weakness is twincest and goth titles. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

Fantasy Hallway is also by Black Cyc. Something to do with werewolves. I skipped through some of it and didn't spend a lot of time trying to translate it or figure out what was going on, because I found parts of it to be a little bit too weird, but there was definitely a story of some kind there. Basically, there was this woman with four daughters, and you're this shounen who reminds me of Ryu from MinDeadBlood. (Voiced and all).

Anyways, they treat you like a pet and not a person. Somehow this was still well done enough to not completely turn me off the game in digust and horror. And at the end, the daughter that you spend the most time with tries to help you escape. After you escape, Yumiko brings you back to the house and you completely lose your memory and start all over again. After you cycle through all four of the daughters, you reach the black level or something and things really start getting freaky and sick.

Anyways, it doesn't involve any of the strategy of MinDeadBlood, it was pretty much just click on the portrait of the Ojo-sama you want to spend the day with, but it was still sort of interesting.

Of course, I didn't think it was as good as Mindead Blood.

#23

Ya know, now that I think about it, I think my friend might have that title. I’ll ring him up and ask…

I’ve been considering Mushitsukai for awhile now:

http://www.cyc-soft.co.jp/musi/gaiyou.htm

Granted, its an older Black Cyc title, but it seems like a “tentacle” title, and I haven’t picked one of those up in a long time. Black Cyc and Tacchi pretty much are my bread and butter when it comes to “dark” series - I hope to play all their releases if my wallet is willing.

#24
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Originally posted by Nargrakhan:
I am the Elizar guy. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

http://www.elizar.com/about.htm

Huh? Where is Kusabi? Do you have finally discovered the reasons behind the sudden generosity [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img] of Takayuki's father?

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Originally posted by Nargrakhan:
Can't say that I have, but I will check it out soon. Baldo keeps pointing out titles that appeal to me - he knows my weakness is twincest and goth titles. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

Heheh [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img], thank you, but I still have some regrets for remembering Shinju no Yakata TOO LATE (yes, the special offer was still valid when you asked for advice [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/frown.gif[/img]... ).

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Originally posted by Nargrakhan:
Granted, its an older Black Cyc title, but it seems like a "tentacle" title, and I haven't picked one of those up in a long time. Black Cyc and Tacchi pretty much are my bread and butter when it comes to "dark" series

Try something new. No torture instruments, but LOTS of tentacles... and much, MUCH [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] more.
However, I must admit that I've played only one of the four games so far. Why? Hmmh... that your twincest fetish is contagious [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]?

#25
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Originally posted by Nargrakhan:
I'm a total GSS nut. Not as action driven and slower that MinDeaD, but the story is more involved and the sex is just as "wild". Plus Gore is a riot. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

Heh. Well, I've played the demo of GSS. Defintively.. Interesting in mayn ways, but also more than sort of scary O_o. Still, what I saw of GSS in the demo defintively made me interested in the game, even if I won't get it anytime soon [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]. But one thing's for sure: I'm gonna play Akane's scenario the day I get the game! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img].

#26

Akane is the one with the best story, but I like Aoi better myself.

I don’t think anyone can go wrong with GSS, and its worth the investment, but then that’s why I gave it a glowing review.


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Huh? Where is Kusabi? Do you have finally discovered the reasons behind the sudden generosity of Takayuki’s father?

I still have it. My list is under an edit right now. Almost have all the endings unlocked.

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However, I must admit that I’ve played only one of the four games so far. Why? Hmmh… that your twincest fetish is contagious ?

Well like the saying goes, “twincest is best.” ’

[This message has been edited by Nargrakhan (edited 05-09-2006).]

#27
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Originally posted by Nargrakhan:
Akane is the one with the best story, but I like Aoi better myself. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

Hmm, not too sure about her - not my favourite chara, but.. *shrugs*. At least, she's a better candiate for winning some amount of my like than Yuka - even if her personality isn't as complex... It isn't strange that Akane's the first to catch my eyes thorugh. I'm ususally drawn to the tomboyish type in b-games.. ^_^

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I don't think anyone can go wrong with GSS, and its worth the investment, but then that's why I gave it a glowing review. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

Nothing go wrong? <_<;. Oh, I wish I had your confindence in that matter...

[This message has been edited by Spectator Beholder (edited 05-09-2006).]

#28

Some questions:

1) Which should I play first, Mini Dead Blood or Gore Screaming Show? Or does it really matter?

2) I can’t read Japanese at all, but can I still get what’s going on if I just rely on the visuals and what the characters are saying (I can understand some Japanese)?

3) What exactly is the ‘Mayu to Mana’ game I saw at Himeya? Is that a sequel or a spinoff/fun disk (like Kagetsu Toya is to Tsukihime or Fate/Hollow Ataraxia is to FSN)?

One last thing, someone I know told me about these two programs that are supposed to help in translating text and such from bishoujo games. The one on the first link says it’s compatible with Mini Dead Blood and Gore Screaming Show.

AGTH - Anime Games Text Hooker
http://agthook.googlepages.com/index.html

Oh! Text Hooker
http://ohhara.sarang.net/ohthk/

#29
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Originally posted by DarkFusion:
1) Which should I play first, Mini Dead Blood or Gore Screaming Show? Or does it really matter?

Depends on your likes/dislikes here. If you have a thing for vampires, twins, etc, then minDeadBlood is your choice. If you more like pure horror/mystery, then GSS is for you.

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2) I can't read Japanese at all, but can I still get what's going on if I just rely on the visuals and what the characters are saying (I can understand some Japanese)?

*sigh* Friend, without any knowledge of japanese, I fear you'd miss most of the fun, really. Without proper knowledge of japanese, you won't understand the story, and the story is the fun and most important thing about a b-game...

If you have an idea of what's being said, it's a help, certainly, but consider that there's a lot of in-between text that describes what's currently happening in a b-game, plus most games doesn't have both male & feamle voice actors, so...

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3) What exactly is the 'Mayu to Mana' game I saw at Himeya? Is that a sequel or a spinoff/fun disk (like Kagetsu Toya is to Tsukihime or Fate/Hollow Ataraxia is to FSN)?

It's an expansion. From what I hear, MinDeadBlood wasn't really completted when it was released and thus, to compensate, the fandisc with the missing stuff was released.

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One last thing, someone I know told me about these two programs that are supposed to help in translating text and such from bishoujo games. The one on the first link says it's compatible with Mini Dead Blood and Gore Screaming Show.

AGTH - Anime Games Text Hooker
http://agthook.googlepages.com/index.html

Oh! Text Hooker
http://ohhara.sarang.net/ohthk/

Text hooker, yes - I've heard of it. It's in essence a helpful tool for translators - but let me tell you, there's no online translation tool or translation tool (like JWPce) which can translate _everything_. without Japanese knowledge, I fear you'll be struck (especialyl in the case of MDB) and not really be able to enjoy the game that much, whichever you buy...

So my advice for you is: Learn some japanese before you pour any money into JP b-games [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

[This message has been edited by Spectator Beholder (edited 05-09-2006).]

#30

I’ll add my two cents.

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Originally posted by DarkFusion:
1) Which should I play first, Mini Dead Blood or Gore Screaming Show? Or does it really matter?

Doesn’t matter story content wise… Both are set in the same universe, but neither really had an effect on the other. I slightly prefer MinDeaD over GSS, but that’s a VERY slight margin.


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Originally posted by DarkFusion:
2) I can’t read Japanese at all, but can I still get what’s going on if I just rely on the visuals and what the characters are saying (I can understand some Japanese)?

Man… MinDeaD BlooD is a nightmare to figure out if you can’t read Japanese - like where to go next, or who needs to be seen. I will admit that some story events can be figured out without reading, as you can guess the general gist of things, but a ton of the cool factor is the story itself. A lot of the characters’ history and relationships are explained, and its rather detailed stuff.

Gore Screaming Show is a horror mystery, so it centers around that factor. The story is a core factor in GSS, and without it, is nothing… well… that and the “gore” and “screaming”.


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Originally posted by DarkFusion:
3) What exactly is the ‘Mayu to Mana’ game I saw at Himeya? Is that a sequel or a spinoff/fun disk (like Kagetsu Toya is to Tsukihime or Fate/Hollow Ataraxia is to FSN)?

As Spectator Beholder said, the original MinDeaD had content that wasn’t put in the game. Reasons for it are numerous: missed deadline, extra content that was thought of AFTER the game was released, cash cow milking, etc. While MinDeaD without the Mana & Mayu expansion is fine, the expansion adds extra story elements and “alternate endings” that make certain characters even better than before.


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Originally posted by DarkFusion:
One last thing, someone I know told me about these two programs that are supposed to help in translating text and such from bishoujo games. The one on the first link says it’s compatible with Mini Dead Blood and Gore Screaming Show.

Never used those programs before, so I can’t say. I guess that’s what those fan translation groups use? Interesting.

#31
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Originally posted by Spectator Beholder:
Text hooker, yes - I've heard of it. It's in essence a helpful tool for translators - but let me tell you, there's no online translation tool or translation tool (like JWPce) which can translate _everything_. without Japanese knowledge, I fear you'll be struck (especialyl in the case of MDB) and not really be able to enjoy the game that much, whichever you buy...

So my advice for you is: Learn some japanese before you pour any money into JP b-games [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

[This message has been edited by Spectator Beholder (edited 05-09-2006).]

Yeah, though first I'll need to find the time to learn the language (not to mention there's no way I could shell out money for those games yet (especially since I'm going to start setting aside money for the PS3(I hear it's been announced that it will be released November 11 in Japan and November 16 in the US, Europe and Astralia).

Still one can of course hope and dream that either this series will get enough of a fan base that someone will either make a translation patch or that either Peach Princess or Kitty Media (they're releasing the game versions for Bible Black and Discipline) can get on good terms with Black Cyc and the games get released over here (neither case is very likely but one can dream, right?)

#32

There was a time, when two friends of mine wanted to make a patch translation for MinDeaD. They had the know how and programs, and I was going to help provide the translated script. However, we dropped the idea because we came to the consensus that doing so would only make people want to pirate the title, rather than buy it (case in point, Tsukihime or Ragnarok Battle Offline). We didn’t like that thought, and rather not have Black Cyc hate us, so it was dumped.

Perhaps I’ll get around to make a English translation in text format, but that’s not a project for me in the short term.

I’d be Peter’s personal slave if Peach Princess somehow made a deal with Black Cyc to release MinDeaD.

[This message has been edited by Nargrakhan (edited 05-09-2006).]

#33
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However, we dropped the idea because we came to the consensus that doing so would only make people want to pirate the title, rather than buy it

It's definitely true that making a fan patch for the game will make more people pirate it. On the other hand, NOT making a fan patch for the game won't make more people buy it.

And, if translated, at least a small number of people would buy it that wouldn't have bought it otherwise.

*shrug*

It's a lot of work though! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

#34

Aye. You’re right of course.

Still, I’d rather not have Cyc get angry with foreigners and do something like block their website from non-Japanese IP addresses.

I’ve registered my games with them, and despite having an American address, they actually send me a newsletter every odd season. That’s kinda cool IMHO.

Now that I think about it, perhaps if we made a fan translation of the demo, that might not have been too “destructive” - perhaps we could have even gotten Cyc’s official blessing for something like that - but the opportunity is long past…

#35

2) I can't read Japanese at all, but can I still get what's going on if I just rely on the visuals and what the characters are saying (I can understand some Japanese)?

My Japanese isn't really the greatest, but when I started playing this game, I could tell that it has a quality and complexity that very few B-games have convinced me of having.

There's also a sort of mini-game that you can play even without the understanding. A lot of it involves strategy, so you have to pick your locations and when you want to visit them. If you don't move fast enough or do it wrong, you'll get the dead end and the hunter is actually pretty hard to beat. There are also a TON of H-scenes and some of them need very particular factors to unlock them so it will take you awhile to collect all the event CGs.

Of course, like Nagrakan said, some of the character development will be lost.

#36

SPOILER*********************

By the way, I never understood that deal with finding Eri at the tower ruins after she brings the Police officer to the hospital. What was the deal there?

#37
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Originally posted by OLF, i.e. Olf Le Fol:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by
Myself, I've been playing bishoujo games and galgames for more than a decade (at the rhythm of about once a month) without any knowledge of the Japanese language. It's really easy: all you have to do is to skip through all the text!

Quite a solution,eh? [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]And what're you gonna do with the choices?Toss a coin or something? [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img] I played all my games without knowing a single kanji and I think I am doing quite well.(just cross check the girl reaction with the choice)

I have question to those that understand japanese,like spectator beholder and nargrakhan,how much time did you spend to study?Taking a course?

#38

thread hijack

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especially since I’m going to start setting aside money for the PS3(I hear it’s been announced that it will be released November 11 in Japan and November 16 in the US, Europe and Astralia)

You mean, that overpriced piece of crap that only spawns endless sequels? Sure. Have fun with those, plus tons of disc read errors, freezing, and other great things that the launch machines of Sony bring you.

#39
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Originally posted by RedHell:
I have question to those that understand japanese,like spectator beholder and nargrakhan,how much time did you spend to study?Taking a course?

In my case, I've achieved fair-but-aspiring-to-good comprehension of written Japanese after two years of INTENSIVE self-study (90% of my free time, with no external help -besides textbooks and Game Demos, of course-), and even today I need daily exercise for preserving my good (I hope!) comprehension level.
However, I assure you that the fruits of this effort are very gratifying, even on a psychological level, unlike empty boasts of guys gifted with money to waste...

#40
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Originally posted by RedHell:
I have question to those that understand japanese,like spectator beholder and nargrakhan,how much time did you spend to study?Taking a course?

...Unlike Baldo above, I've never managed to spend that much of my freetime to learn japanese - because I've had school and later university plus other things to consider. But in the beginning, I spent about 50% of what free time I had to reach my current level - which I would rate as "decent" or "good enough", but I've still got a loooong way to the top - through self-studying. A course or such was never available to me and in any event, they would in my case mean complications. Nowadays, I focus more on keeping my skills in japanese sharp, rather than advance them. During summer breaks and such I may have time for studying to becoem more skilled, but otherwise, I mostly just keep my skills sharp and improves them in what small ways I can through playing b-games, reading japanese manga, etc...