You’re late to the news, Peter!
That was THERE and BEFORE, not HERE and NOW. :lol:
Okay, okay, sorry. My mistake. I did not pay much attencion to that thread because i’m not interested in rape anyway. :roll:
But Nekomimi/kemonomimi is another story!
It has gone WAY beyond just “rape games”, though.
I’m not mad at you personally, so don’t take it the wrong way, but that’s [u]EXACTLY[/u] the kind of thinking that got you in this mess in the first place.
Most people didn’t care when it was rape. Most people didn’t care when it was loli. Now some people care because it’s semi-animorphic bestiality. Well what if the people who don’t care for semi-animorphic bestiality won’t say anything? The point I’m getting at: if people say nothing because they don’t care for their other bretherine, it will be TOO LATE when they come for you because there’s no one else left.
In fact, I’m truly glad they’re seriously trying to ban what YOU want, because otherwise you’d do nothing and let them ban what I want. Now people are saying, “we have to save eroge” (and they mean ALL eroge), instead of being selfish and only caring about what they wanted.
These people want to ban ALL eroge if they can, and they picked easy targets at first. If they made a mistake, it was ONLY trying to take on too many targets at once. Had they taken their time: gotten rape banned in 2009, got loli banned in 2010, got bestiality banned in 2011, waited a year or two doing nothing, then moved on to pregnancy in 2013: people probably would be sitting on their butts, not realizing their own time was inevitable - because they didn’t care. :roll:
Some people actually don’t really care, though. Seriously, it’s just a hobby, nothing more. Aside from the fact I have a backlog huge enough to endure a couple decades long siege, I’m used to seeing my hobbies being vilified, and finding new ones. In the 80s, when I was heavily into (pen&paper) RPGs, RPGs got demonized. In the 90s, when I was heavily into manga and anime, they got defamed. Now, in the 2000s when I’m heavily into erogees, erogees get vilified. New decade, new target, but nothing new under the sun. I shall probably be into some new hobby in the 2010s, and it may get denigrated as well but, who cares? It’s not important; it’s just a hobby.
You’re right of course, but I find the massive hypocrisy among followers of the eroge so annoying. Just because it’s a hobby, doesn’t mean I can’t have love for it. Owning antique cars might only be a hobby, and it’s certainly not vital to life, but that doesn’t stop people from pouring significant amounts of their paycheck and free time into pursuing.
And of course while it’s ONLY a hobby, the political and legal ramifications of censorship aren’t something that should be seen as ONLY a freedom (you know it won’t stop at eroge).
That’s why I admire the NRA, although I don’t agree with them. If interest groups are trying to ban anything from grenades to naval mines to hand guns to refurbished vintage tanks from WW1: the NRA rabidly defends them all as the same. They understand the dangers of the domino effect. And sure… you can’t win them all (can’t own naval mines), but you can win things people never expect (can own refurbished tanks with the proper paperwork).
Didn’t say anything against you following such a fight…
There are battles deserving to be fought, and battles not deserving it. Fighting for “freedom” doesn’t mean going all out for any tiny detail that can be even remotely perceived as an attack on “freedom” --not mentioning that “freedom” is over-estimated anyway.
So, sure, you can freely fight this battle, but don’t become a missionary preaching people that they should join your fight, or the sky shall fall.
True. But their strategy has gone asymmetric. Instead of outlawing pedo comics as immoral, they have it listed as obscene. Instead of having rape seen as devoid of artistic merit, they have it listed as something only the mentally degenerate would try to profit from or enjoy. In essence they undermine from a different position, to get the same effect they wanted. It then overspills. If you can outlaw pedo comics as obscene, it doesn’t take any legal leap to have the precedence set in obscenity from depiction of fictional drawings, to then apply into live pornography (all those babysitter themed pornos) or literature (stories featured in Hustler). In the case of eroge: the bans are going to spill into manga, anime, and AV’s.
Just how not every battle is worth fighting, not every battle that seems trivial is actually trivia.
The other line item that I tend to watch is “legal globalization.” For example when that guy in Australia got slammed for drawing Simpsons porn, it was brought up in pedo comic cases in Virginia as a legal precedence (and it worked). Japan’s laws on censorship are always being negatively compared to ultra conservative versions in Europe and America.
lol… someone has too. 
On a flip side though: people shouldn’t then be surprised they’re suddenly on the ban list, when they saw the storm brewing on the horizon. When your neighbors are being invaded by the regional dictator, don’t feign surprise when his armies are marching on your streets. They got to nekomimi eroge, because they already got everything else, and it was only natural for it to be next.
Now granted, it’s not like the NAZI’s or Communists in actual history, but the general strategy is the same: targeting and eradicating of one group at a time. For whatever reason, the radical feminist groups made a tactical error in losing patience and started moving too fast (or maybe not… the battle isn’t over yet).
And generally speaking, most civil and legal rights movements work on the principal of being a missionary preaching people that they should join your fight, even if you’re the majority who isn’t being affected.
Yeah, i know. My bad. :lol:
I know it sounds like hypocrisy, but how i can put… there is things what cannot be taken seriously… others like rape can and must! If i were a girl, i would not like the idea of being raped/gangraped or have strange/disgusting things choke inside my every orifice, either. (actually, i don’t like the idea of such things even being a man) :lol:
Like Olf said, some thing are better let be forgotten… because they’re not fun at all. Or at least, for some of us they aren’t.
So, sorry for that, Narg… But i will not fight for the right of rape not being banned from eroges. I have other fights to join right now.
No one’s arguing that rape is a good thing … at least, no one on this board is, I can’t speak for the creepy blog. 
We’re arguing that a story involving tentacle rape of a drawn fictional character is not the same thing as actually raping a real person.
Neither is catgirl sex the same thing as molesting an actual cat!
I don’t want to play the creepy rape games, they’re disturbing and unpleasant. But they’re FICTION. I don’t want to watch horror movies either, they’re gross. But they’re FICTION.
Sure, but I have matters to take care other than to fight for horror movies not to be banned.
it really sucks all these things are getting banned from eroge
Well yes… Narg does tend to have a lot of free time. :o
I just realized… NO MORE INCEST OF ANY KIND THEREFORE TWINCEST!!!
Now, I know the REAL reason why Narg is so upset and decided to fight!!!
Ah… Err… what I mean to say is… Damn it… :oops:
Yea. I’m not a noble saint or savior. I’ve my own selfish reasons.
They threaten the Precious. THEY MUST PAY!!!
I’ll see them broken at my feet… and if you won’t stand with me… if you dare not help me fight this evil… Narg won’t share any twincest with ya.
Well okay I lied… I wasn’t planning on sharing twincest with you anyways. But I promise not to backstab anyone until we defeat them first.
Don’t worry, I shall simply steal it from you.
I’m not sure how helpful it will be, or whether they’ll take any notice of it, but I’m going to write to the Japanese government here like Minori suggested. (Yeah, it would certainly be better to do it in Japanese, but I don’t have the language ability to write a formal statement discussing these issues :P).
I did that. I have written formal statements to my congressman a couple times.
I’m afraid you must elaborate as my inner nerd has been enraptured by this News. :o