So how many here watch anime and read manga

Besides, you are all summing up the coolest and newest anime, think you are cool, but let’s not forget other timeless classics.

Tank Police
Macross (original, not Roboshit version)
City Hunter
Castle of Cagliostro

I could go on like the others, but this is enuff

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Originally posted by Giovanni:

Castle of Cagliostro

Ah, the endless tides of Lupin...make it stop! Make it stop! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

Yeah, I'm pretty big on anime. I watch a lot of fansubs, and I attend the university anime club's showings every Friday evening. My favorite series are Chobits and Elfen Lied. Tsukihime and Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien are up there too.

See? Modern stuff again :stuck_out_tongue:
People just keep forgetting the oldies, hehe.

(ofcourse i don’t mean new is bad)

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Bah, the oldies are dead. Time marches on and leaves those fossils where they belong…in the dust. j/k

Seriously, I’m not fond of old anime in general. I dislike the method of storytelling back then, and the character designs (both male and female) just weren’t very appealing. Not to mention the animation style is…old. It lacks the vivid color and flair of modern animation. Not to mention that old techno music is just plain terrible…

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Originally posted by Dark_Shiki:
Seriously, I'm not fond of old anime in general. I dislike the method of storytelling back then, and the character designs (both male and female) just weren't very appealing. Not to mention the animation style is...old. It lacks the vivid color and flair of modern animation. Not to mention that old techno music is just plain terrible...

How old school are you talking? Mid-nineties old school (YES, mid-nineties could be considered old school) or older? Because there ARE some old classics from that era that still hold up. I can't speak to anything older than that, being a fan from the late nineties onwards myself.

However, I will say this. I had the wonderful job of watching a room where they were showing Fist of the North Star TV at ACen last year. (I'm con staff.) There's a very good reason I refer to the experience as "getting Fisted".

To play Devil’s Advocate, I can argue for the other side. Modern anime often makes use of cheap CG coloring, where older anime always used hand painted cells. Also a lot of new anime mixes 3D CG with animation in a way that makes the 3D objects look awkard and out of place. A lot of anime companies are sub contracting the production work to Korea, which makes the anime cheaper to produce but at the same time it’s not really “Japanese animation” anymore. I’m not really sure to what extent this is being done, but it wasn’t an issue back in the days of the original “Dirty Pair.”

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Originally posted by Nandemonai:
How old school are you talking? Mid-nineties old school (YES, mid-nineties could be considered old school) or older? Because there ARE some old classics from that era that still hold up. I can't speak to anything older than that, being a fan from the late nineties onwards myself.

I'd probably says the "old school" cut-off for me is somewhere between the late 80's and early 90's. Saber Marionette J and expecially Evangelion don't feel particularly dated, for example. Vampire Princess Miyu does feel rather dated, however, even though what I saw was still decent.

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Originally posted by bishounen_blue:
Also a lot of new anime mixes 3D CG with animation in a way that makes the 3D objects look awkard and out of place.

No argument from me there, though I have seen it done successfully.

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Modern anime often makes use of cheap CG coloring, where older anime always used hand painted cells. Also a lot of new anime mixes 3D CG with animation in a way that makes the 3D objects look awkard and out of place. A lot of anime companies are sub contracting the production work to Korea, which makes the anime cheaper to produce but at the same time it's not really "Japanese animation" anymore. I'm not really sure to what extent this is being done, but it wasn't an issue back in the days of the original "Dirty Pair."

I'm mostly concerned with the character designs and the method of storytelling. These are completely subjective, really. I like the angular designs of faces, for example, as opposed to the rounded faces usually seen in older animation. As for cheap CG coloring...well all I can say is that I think it still looks a lot better than the hand painted animation of old.

Ofcourse i’m not saying “new” Anime like Cowboy Bebop or Macross Zero looks ugly. Far from it. When i say new anime is ugly im talking about cheap, mass produced, 50 or 100 eps+ anime, like Yugioh or Pokemon. Yknow, kid’s stuff. Bad character design, bad story, simple animation etc. Though cg coloring and such may look better sometimes, it doesn’t mean we should just hate and discard old Anime.

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Just trying to keep the thread alive. Going to search for the Lamuness thread soon, as well.

Has anyone heard of Tenjho Tenge? CMX totally screwed over the manga with the world’s heaviest editing. Geneon has the animation license which I heard is toned down from the manga, but I’m still looking forward to the animation, since I can trust Geneon.

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Yeah I made a post about CMX’s butchering of TenTen here a while back. Looks like CMX is adamant about sticking their heads in the sand and hoping everyone will just go away. I’ve pretty much gave up on all CMX title because of the way they treat their customers.

As for the TenTen anime. It was origionally toned way down in japan. And since most DVDs now are safe from censors it should be unedited. Just a warning to those that have the japanese manga, the anime really really tones things down