Tokimeki Memorial 4

[Lancer-X]

@Nargrakhan

Anyone know of a good Tokimeki Memorial mailing group with more than 50K active members?

I’m pretty sure that doesn’t exist =P 50K people won’t buy Tokimemo 4 anyway >_>

[Nargrakhan]

Got it. Playing it.

It appears that going straight after Miyako doesn’t activate her yandere scenario. She’s somewhat difficult to get positive results from… makes sense, given she’s your childhood friend (she’s used to your childish advances and whatnot). Going after other girls doesn’t seem to ignite it either. Still experimenting and resetting a lot.

Someone hinted that I should be nice to her, then be mean/totally ignore. Going to try that next.

EDIT

TM4 Trailer Movie

[AG3]

@Nargrakhan

:shock: :o :twisted:

OMG! Please be true! Please be true!

This game just went from, “meh… when I feel like it” to "WHY DIDN’T I PREORDER!?" There was no sign of it in the advertising, so how could I have known? Oh it’s just like the real thing!!! :oops:

For those who are wondering why me and OLF are suddenly so genki: yandere

Goddamn Konami and their no importing English dating game policy!

You know they’d remove the yandere sections to keep the age rating lower if they decided to localise it, right?

[Lancer-X]

I don’t think even yandere could get me to buy a TokiMemo nowadays. Like Pia Carrot 4, I see it as a game for a bygone era. I’d be more likely to consider it if it wasn’t named Tokimeki Memorial =P

I just have this thing about sequels, in general. Some sequels make sense. Mugen Kairou 2 made sense. Rasen Kairou 2 made sense. Heck, even the Triangle Heart games made sense, because they were released within a tight enough timeframe. But more TokiMemo and Pia Carrot? Feels like money-grubbing, using the names of games that were popular back in the day.

[moesan]

@Nargrakhan

Kinda shocked no one has brought up Tokimeki Memorial 4 around here.

http://www.konami.jp/tokimeki4

Odds of American release? Well… let’s just say that Konami doesn’t love us…

well non H visual novels are even more of a niche in Amercia, that is why Hirameki went under. But yea cool news, but nothing beats the orginal

[Nargrakhan]

Famitsu gives TM4 a high score: 9/8/8/8. Sold 53,000 units on it’s first week - which is considered a good thing. Sales are expected to increase with the good press reviews, positive fan response, and Xmas holidays. The previously hidden yandere hype helps too.

Can’t wait for the anime adaption. :twisted:

Gameplay Trailer

@AG3

You know they’d remove the yandere sections to keep the age rating lower if they decided to localise it, right?

Naw. Violence is okay in America: we only sweat it when an adult shows affection for children.

@Lancer-X

I don’t think even yandere could get me to buy a TokiMemo nowadays. Like Pia Carrot 4, I see it as a game for a bygone era. I’d be more likely to consider it if it wasn’t named Tokimeki Memorial =P

I just have this thing about sequels, in general. Some sequels make sense. Mugen Kairou 2 made sense. Rasen Kairou 2 made sense. Heck, even the Triangle Heart games made sense, because they were released within a tight enough timeframe. But more TokiMemo and Pia Carrot? Feels like money-grubbing, using the names of games that were popular back in the day.

But isn’t each Tokimeki Memorial basically a “reboot” with new characters and stories? At best their only connection is cameo characters who’ve grown up, the high school, and the sakura tree. Each title essentially stands on its own merit: the lovability of the girls, romance of their scenario, and the fun of the mini-games. It’s like any other gaming franchise (Castlevania, Zelda, etc): sometimes a later release will greatly surpass the original (like Megaman 2) and sometimes they will miserably fail (like Megaman 8 ).

Personally the only TM’s I liked were the first and second. Still haven’t made an opinion on this one. Yandere is great and all that, but I need for at least half the cast to be lovable. However I haven’t gotten around to seeing the other girls yet… still aiming for some stabby-stabby love first.

EDIT

Heh… just figured it out. She has some adorable lines after the change. :twisted:

[spoiler]She remarks how Destiny and Fate are cruel, because as a childhood friend she isn’t most favored and that it’s unnatural.

Kinda fourth wall breaking in a sense, because this is the first TM where the childhood friend isn’t the default girl.

She’s more of a brooding yandere, than the violent yelling kind. Like Yuno from Mirai Nikki, but without the instant killer side.[/spoiler]

[Lancer-X]

@Nargrakhan

But isn’t each Tokimeki Memorial basically a “reboot” with new characters and stories? At best their only connection is cameo characters who’ve grown up, the high school, and the sakura tree. Each title essentially stands on its own merit: the lovability of the girls, romance of their scenario, and the fun of the mini-games. It’s like any other gaming franchise (Castlevania, Zelda, etc): sometimes a later release will greatly surpass the original (like Megaman 2) and sometimes they will miserably fail (like Megaman 8 ).

But that’s the POINT. I don’t like ‘franchises’ like this. If they’re not all the same, why do they all have the same name? It’s not like Rasen Kairou and Mugen Kairou where the sequel work is logical - there isn’t really any reason for future titles to carry the name - but they DO.

[Nargrakhan]

Ah… okay… I get ya now.

I suppose it’s to represent the basic mechanics are still in effect, as all the Tokimeki Memorials are thematically the same. Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy do the same. Sorta like a “seal of quality” thing. When a title is called DQ or FF, the customer has the expectation it will be as high quality as the ones that came before, despite the drastic setting changes. Tokimeki Memorial is in the same boat: with the exception of TM3, they’ve all be major hits and a representation of what the best non-hentai bgames strive to achieve. When TM4 was announced, fans knew what they were going to get before media teasers were released - a first class bgame - just like any main DQ and FF title does with it’s own. It’s like sports cars I think. Look at the Ford Mustang - various generations have little to do with each other externally and under the hood. But when you hear the name Mustang, you know it’s a muscle car.

It’s also for the marketing cashcowing of course. Few series have as much merchandise as TM… there’s even fan books that catalog the junk.

[olf_le_fol]

@Nargrakhan

…there’s even fan books that catalog the junk.

Hides himself as he owns several of them for TM1

[Lancer-X]

@Nargrakhan

Tokimeki Memorial is in the same boat: with the exception of TM3, they’ve all be major hits and a representation of what the best non-hentai bgames strive to achieve.

Well, ‘best’ in terms of most popular, anyway; they do what they do well! What I see as the ‘best’ in non-H bgames is stuff like the Harvest December series and Ryukishi’s work (and I guess steins;gate if it stays as good as it has seemed to be so far)

[Nargrakhan]

This is the part, where [u][color=red]I[/color][/u] go yandere. :evil:

Don’t get the girl rejection. Spoiler obviously.

Tis better to be stabbed by a girl you didn’t love, than not get loved at all.

[Nargrakhan]

Beat the game with Miyako and Rizumi… the other girls are rather blah to me, so I’ve sorta stopped playing TM4 now.

Anonymous has created a Wikipedia page for TM4 with translated info for the characters:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokimeki_Memorial_4

Because Wikipedia is full of jerks who get entire articles deleted or modified for retarded reasons (not enough notoriety or something equally lame like that), I’ll cut and paste the info here, in case it gets changed or deleted.

MAJOR SPOILERS

Maki Hoshikawa

Birthday: 1 June
Sign: Gemini
Blood type: A
Height: 157 cm
Closest friend: Tsugimi Godou
The female lead of Tokimeki Memorial 4, Maki is a compassionate, cheerful, sincere, and honest person who can get along with everyone and likes to help people around her. Due to this characteristic of hers, she readily volunteers to become the head of the classroom and later on the student president. Her favorite hobby, besides helping people, is listening to J-pop music. Player will encounter Maki for the first time on the first day of class, as she will sit next to you. Even if you don’t date her, she will still help you with a lot of things, especially with setting “special skills,” which allows the player to obtain skills useful in variety of aspects.

Maki’s storyline mainly involves around her wish to become a nurse and hesitation that comes with it.

Yuu Satsuki

Birthday: 14 October
Sign: Libra
Blood type: A
Height: 159 cm
Yuu Satsuki is a perfect girl who excels at everything she does. She is the student president of Kirameki high school before the position is later appointed to Maki. Due to the large load of work she is responsible for, she is very busy and seen carrying a folder all the time. She is one year older than the protagonist

Yuu bears a number of resemblances to Shiori Fujisaki, the main female lead of the first tokimeki memorial game. She often wears a head band during weekends, although she does not wear it everyday like Shiori. She also likes romantic stuff and classical music.

Like Shiori, Yuu is the hardest character to end with in Tokimeki memorial 4. To win her heart, player is required to have very high status points in every area, as well as able to gain admission to the first rate university.

Tsugumi Godou

Birthday: 2 March
Sign: Aquarius
Blood type: A
Height: 155 cm
Closest friend: Maki Hoshikawa
Tsugumi is Maki’s closest friend who overly cares for Maki and is ready to do everything to protect her. She initially hates the protagonist for being friends with Maki and will continue to do so unless the player dates her to a certain point.

Tsugumi is very talented at language and literature. She is often found reading books in the school library. She belongs to Kirameki’s literature club. After she graduates, she also continues her education in specialized school of language and literature. While she is academically excellent, she is very bad at sports.

Unlike conventional eye-glassed nerdy girls, Tsugumi is neither soft-spoken nor gentle. On the other hand, she is morose and sulky,ready to snap at everyone who irritates her. She is also brave, once seen trying to protect Maki from a group of thugs. Due to these characteristics, Tsugumi is considered the “tsundere” girl of Tokimeki Memorial 4.

Tsugumi’s storyline is mainly about how she has to accept the fact that she and Maki have their own lives and that she could not protect Maki all the time.

Rizumi Kyouno

Birthday: 16 September
Sign: Virgo
Blood type: AB
Height: 164 cm
A genius music prodigy, Rizumi(or Rhythmy) devotes all of energy for music composition. She is seen wearing headphones all the time, which makes people afraid to talk to her. She also does not talk much at all. As a result of her personality, she does not have many friends at school.

Rizumi has excellent sense of hearing, as she can hear and distinguish every kind of sound, regardless of how far it is. Once, she even tells the protagonist the model of an airplane just by listening to its engine sound, despite the fact that the plane is so far away that the protagonist cannot even see it. Her incredible (and sometimes too good) sense of hearing is part of reasons why she has to wear headphones. She also likes quiet places as she will not have to hear and get disturbed by all kinds of sound.

Rizumi’s storyline is mainly about her composition based on her high school life. Due to the fact that she does not do much at school besides spending time alone composing music, she has a hard time imagining how this piece of music will turn out. Her relationship with the protagonist helps her understand more and more what it means to be a high school student.

Kai Ryukouchi

Birthday: 14 April
Sign: Aries
Blood type: A
Height: 167 cm
The daughter of a yakuza leader and the only successor of Ryukouchi yakuza gang, Kai is brought up like a boy and has a lot of masculine characteristics. She is very good at fighting and does not hesitate to beat up anyone who annoys her. This makes her a frightening figure among the local thugs.

At school, Kai is a delinquent, hardly going to class or participating in any activities. During school, she spends most of her time taking a nap on the rooftop, chilling out at Kirameki riverside park, or going to game arcade. Despite her delinquency, Kai does surprisingly well in exams and often stays among the top of the class.

Kai’s storyline is mainly about her decision to succeed Ryukouchi yakuza gang. While she is expected to do so as she is the only daughter of the gang leader, she also wants to live a life of a normal girl. Choosing the latter will definitely go against her father’s will and may eventually escalate to a familial feud. The protagonist will play an important role in helping her make the decision that is best for everyone.

Itsuki Maeda

Birthday: 12 January
Sign: Capricorn
Blood type: O
Height: 153 cm
Closest friend: Miyako Okura
Itsuki is a tomboy who has passion in sports, especially soccer. She is in Kirameki girl soccer club and is the best player in the team. She is always seen dribbling a soccer ball.

Besides athletic skills, Itsuki is also good at mechanics, as it is related to her family’s business

Miyako Okura

Birthday: 13 May
Sign: Taurus
Blood type: O
Height: 165 cm
Closest friend: Itsuki Maeda
Miyako is the protagonist’s childhood friend and also neighbor. She is generally a cheerful, straightforward, and impatient person. She helps the protagonist with a lot of things, including waking him up in the morning, bringing him monthly allowance, and giving him information about other girls in Kirameki high school. Miyako always carries with her a bunny doll that she and the protagonist made when they were young. The bunny is a cameo from Silent Hill: Homecoming.

At the beginning of the game, Miyako’s roles are more like protagonist’s male friends in previous Tokimeki Memorial games. Player can ask her girls’ profile and their feelings towards the player just. She is initially not datable. However, if the player asks her out for a certain number of times, she will eventually agree to date the protagonist.

Once the player starts dating Miyako, a series of events will lead her to misunderstand that the protagonist does not really care for her. As a result, she suffers psychosis and her personalities totally change. She becomes quiet, starts to dress in black, and always talks about scary things. She no longer tells the protagonist girls’ information and stops bringing him monthly allowance. She also stalks the protagonist heavily, knowing when he goes out with other girls. If the protagonist dates any girl during this period, he will have to fight the evil spirit of the bunny doll. Miyako will become normal again if the player continues dating her for a while. However, even so, the player will no longer be able to ask her about girls. Also, the player will hardly be able to go home with other girls, given that he will have to fight the bunny before he could do so. Due to all mentioned, Miyako is considered the “yandere” girl of Tokimeki Memorial 4, and probably is the first one in Tokimeki Memorial series.

[olf_le_fol]

Once the player starts dating Miyako, a series of events will lead her to misunderstand that the protagonist does not really care for her. As a result, she suffers psychosis and her personalities totally change. She becomes quiet, starts to dress in black, and always talks about scary things. She no longer tells the protagonist girls’ information and stops bringing him monthly allowance. She also stalks the protagonist heavily, knowing when he goes out with other girls. If the protagonist dates any girl during this period, he will have to fight the evil spirit of the bunny doll. Miyako will become normal again if the player continues dating her for a while. However, even so, the player will no longer be able to ask her about girls. Also, the player will hardly be able to go home with other girls, given that he will have to fight the bunny before he could do so. Due to all mentioned, Miyako is considered the “yandere” girl of Tokimeki Memorial 4, and probably is the first one in Tokimeki Memorial series.

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Aren’t you glad I mentioned that point to you, Narg?

[Nargrakhan]

@olf_le_fol

Aren’t you glad I mentioned that point to you, Narg?

Of course. :o

What puzzles me, is why anyone would want to date any of those other inferior girls, with full knowledge of the glory that is Miyako. The actions of Usagi-chan is merely to remind the player, that they are making a grave mistake in ignoring the love that is Miyako.

[olf_le_fol]

@Nargrakhan

What puzzles me, is why anyone would want to date any of those other inferior girls, with full knowledge of the glory that is Miyako.

Because a true yandere cannot fully express herself until there are other girls to whom the object of her love is attracted!

[Nargrakhan]

Just got Miyako’s perfect ending. Rawr.

After I get the perfect end for Rizumi, I’m done with this game.

How to win with Miyako… SPOILERS obviously…

#1: First you need to unlock her. It’s really easy: always call her for a date, even when she rejects going out. Eventually she’ll give in and go on a date. Make it a good date. Continue dating her.

#2: Strive to have all your academic stats as close to 250 as you can – you need that much to graduate with her. Just pick the same school she’s going to.

That’s pretty much it. Once you get past those two hurdles, Miyako is easy because of her yandere nature (i.e. she’s always after you). I’d dare say she’s the easiest to win with once unlocked. Rival bombs have no effect on her. None what-so-ever. She loves you that much. So ignore dem bitches. 8) Ironically her bombs do HUGE damage to ALL the girls… not surprising though: she’s a yandere. Combine that with the whole Usagi-chan attacks, and it’s practically impossible to deviate from her scenario once locked in. :lol: Miyako has no disliked dating zones during her yandere mode, but her favorite places will be romantic movies, the carnival, and the karaoke. When she’s not in yandere mode, try sticking with her favorite zones. Don’t forget to take her skiing in the winter.

Just use common sense with all her prompts and do okay in the mini-games… she’ll confess to you. Now go out there and make sweet-sweet yandere love!

Random fun fact: Miyako’s VA also does Sakura from Street Fighter 4.

EDIT
In the second week TM4 only sold 12,000 units. Massive disappointing drop. Might not be so bad if the third week sales are in the 10K range. Guess we’ll see. Title is still a huge success… just looks like it won’t hit 100,000 though.

[olf_le_fol]

@Nargrakhan

Ironically her bombs do HUGE damage to ALL the girls… not surprising though: she’s a yandere.

Indeed: her bombs may be actual bombs!

[Nargrakhan]

This is why the El Segundo office will not green light Tokimeki Memorial.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/1 … index.html

Did some more digging, and they actually aired a segment on the international channel just a few days ago:

http://us.cnn.com/video/?/video/tech/20 … eogame.cnn

sigh

[Nargrakhan]

Very informative and highly detailed fan made TM4 wiki:

http://alphawiki.net/tokimeki4

Until the official strategy guide is released, this is probably the best source of info for all the secrets. Following it will give 100% gallery unlock.

Please note it reveals the two hidden girls (Miyako ain’t so hidden).

OLF will only want this part.

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Here’s blog entries about one of the hidden girls…

http://home.gamer.com.tw/blogDetail.php … et&sn=9676

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/alpha623/e/27e8ee … e5c708e45b

Miyako’s yandere got more attention than denied twincest.

EDIT

Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right :shock:

[Nargrakhan]

There is much love for Miyako. :twisted: