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Good quote. I was thinking of some special from the History Channel or something where knocking three times on the table and saying something like “The lion flys north”, got you a special drink during the 1920’s. Only in this case gains you access to the backroom with the games.

Well if it was profitable to ship illegal Bishoujo games into Indonesia, some “family run” shipping service could have a hand.

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Originally posted by SCDawg:
That's true too, I am not sure I have ever seen any Bishoujo games being sold in stores, so it's questionable if they would sell them in a store within a country where they are laws banning the import or at least massively restricting the import of anything with hentai content.

At least legally sell them, to be honest it does sound more like a speakeasy deal of knowing the knock and the password, at least given what is known about the import laws and knowing how strange it would therefore be to see them in stores. If it is not such, apologies, but it is sounding like one.

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no wonder you feel it strange, please note that snow drop is not very extreme hentai (sorry for this long explaination). they just displayed among of tokimemo for ps and another date sim. And about the w.C. , yes i found it in the back store.

Like I said, a speakeasy, back of the store, where the real action takes place. Well it is an arguable point about Snow Drop and not one I would feel comfortable defending the selling or purchase of given the laws that exist, I see your point and that is a good defense, debatable.

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Originally posted by SCDawg:
Like I said, a speakeasy, back of the store, where the real action takes place. Well it is an arguable point about Snow Drop and not one I would feel comfortable defending the selling or purchase of given the laws that exist, I see your point and that is a good defense, debatable.

Hey, have you ever heard "Laws made tbe break.". You know although the hentai laws is strict, as a seller you still can sell it to the right consumer(17 year old or more) so the counter won't let under ages buy it.

You mean the saying “Rules are made to be broken”?

Frankly I prefer I think it is Thoreau’s idea of Civil Disobedience, which at least the relevant part is in short, in my interpertation, “The Government cannot truly govern without the consent of the governed”, which I think is a quote in and of itself, perhaps Lincoln.

Nevertheless, are you saying the importation of the games is illegal but the selling of them is legal to those over 17 is legal? Sounds like a conflict within the law.

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Keep hitting quote instead of edit sorry.

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Originally posted by SCDawg:
You mean the saying "Rules are made to be broken"?

Frankly I prefer I think it is Thoreau's idea of Civil Disobedience, which at least the relevant part is in short, in my interpertation, "The Government cannot truly govern without the consent of the governed", which I think is a quote in and of itself, perhaps Lincoln.

Nevertheless, are you saying the importation of the games is illegal but the selling of them is legal to those over 17 is legal? Sounds like a conflict within the law.

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i want to make it clear for you, the law is not strict as you thought. so i wrote "Rules are made to be broken" (sorry wrong line from me)just for a quote from me, [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img] sorry for my my bad habit.
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Originally posted by perigee:
Also, this would be the first time I've heard of PP's games being sold in a storefront (assuming he's referring to the English language versions).

Why not? In Italy, for marketing reasons, only a few stores have b-games in stock, but those shops sell openly their "merchandise". However, much more erogame material is available searching in the ubiquitous "pornographic section" (but, often, even amongst the normal magazines!) of our newspaper kiosks/newsstands, usually in the form of the various erogame magazines (plus, any eventual, but very rare, "gadget". This month, for example, GX, my preferred magazine, will make available in the Italian newspaper kiosks the Italian version of "VIper Paradice" for 8.90 Euro only).
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Originally posted by Baldo:
Why not? In Italy, for marketing reasons, only a few stores have b-games in stock, but those shops sell openly their "merchandise".
We'd heard that some games were sold in European stores. Benoit found copies of True Love at an Italian shop not long ago, and didn't Hobibox Europe operate a storefront when the company was still in business? Are Peach Princess games also available in stores? It seemed like our European members were asking about the best way to mailorder them.

It's a little harder to believe that legitimate b-game retailers operate openly in Indonesia. It's a beautiful country - I've enjoyed traveling there a couple times - but it may also be the world leader for bootleg recordings. I remember seeing shops in Bali that had every CD available in the Western Hemisphere for $2. Somehow it's hard to imagine legitimate copies of games being sold for $50 retail plus an under the counter surcharge.

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Originally posted by perigee:
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We'd heard that some games were sold in European stores. Benoit found copies of True Love at an Italian shop not long ago, and didn't Hobibox Europe operate a storefront when the company was still in business? Are Peach Princess games also available in stores? It seemed like our European members were asking about the best way to mailorder them.
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The true problem for Italian b-gamers isn't the availability (Hey, Benoit has found those copies because of MY indications... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]), but the shameful overpricing which these games suffer (not considering the Customs tariffs, too!). [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/mad.gif[/img]
For an example, look here: http://www.consoleland.it/ . 70 Euro for most English b-games, "only" 50 Euro for special offers (!!). It's exactly for this reason that the Italian erogame market is relatively small (a true waste of potential!!). [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/mad.gif[/img]
Not coincidentally, most English-literate Italian b-gamers, like me, make their purchases from foreign stores (this seems a good choice: http://www.archonia.com/index.php )...

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Originally posted by NerdZer0:

i want to make it clear for you, the law is not strict as you thought. so i wrote "Rules are made to be broken" (sorry wrong line from me)just for a quote from me, [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img] sorry for my my bad habit.

Can you define not as strict? No importation seems very strict to me. It sounds like a law wherein if customs found a game being imported it should never get passed them.

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We'd heard that some games were sold in European stores. Benoit found copies of True Love at an Italian shop not long ago

As Baldo already said above, it was all thanks to him. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
But taht's not the only European I have seen selling bishoujo games. I mentioned months ago that the manga shop I go to also sells them. Currently they have DOR and two Viper games. They had much more, and most of it was sold during the latest convention in The Netherlands. Other copies were sold rarely over the course of I don't know how long. At least a year or something.
Sadly, it's exactly because of those low sales that they won't restock on these games anymore. I try to convince them to continue and recommending them the good titles, though. And if there's a bishoujo game I want, they will order it for me, which by the way, seems cheaper.
They get their bishoujo games from Archonia, just like Baldo.

hey folks seems the reply goes far from the topic…

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Originally posted by NerdZer0:
hey folks seems the reply goes far from the topic...

Get use to it, that happens to a lot of threads, and if you don't get use to it quickly, you will get mad a lot of times over nothing.

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Originally posted by SCDawg:
Get use to it, that happens to a lot of threads, and if you don't get use to it quickly, you will get mad a lot of times over nothing.
no, no, idon't feel disturbed with it, but let's talk about this game shall we ?

Translation is approaching the 50% mark with XC3. We’re really going to try to get this out to everyone in a reasonable amount of time, unlike XC2. :slight_smile:

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Originally posted by Peter Payne:
Translation is approaching the 50% mark with XC3. We're really going to try to get this out to everyone in a reasonable amount of time, unlike XC2. ^_^
great, but is it still in DVD version? i hope it's transferred in cd version (don't say me fool it just my h wish.)

I wouldn’t say you’re a fool, but if a game is released on DVD, it probably means there’s too much content to be transferred to a single CD without considerable editing. If I had to choose between a DVD release and multiple CDs, I’d pick the DVD. I find having to switch CDs during gameplay a minor nuisance, and since I have DVD drives on all my systems, why not? I realize that doesn’t help those without DVD drives, but face it - sooner or later you’re going to have to upgrade if you want to keep up with newer releases.

It depends how they do the DVD, would it still run only off a computer DVD-Rom drive and allow you to save to the harddrive, or would it be passwords? I am happy with the password ability in Hourglasss of Summer where you can basically choose when you want one, but unless it is like that, I am not sure DVD is ideal.

To have save and CG galleries (presuming many things that were slightly disproven about some DVD games by Hourglasss of Summer) I would rather have the inconvience of changing CD’s to a DVD.

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Originally posted by SCDawg:
To have save and CG galleries (presuming many things that were slightly disproven about some DVD games by Hourglasss of Summer) I would rather have the inconvience of changing CD's to a DVD.
I think you're comparing Windows-based games with DVD player-based games. If a game is Windows-based, it doesn't matter whether the media is DVD or CD - you get the same features either way. I agree that DVD player games are less feature-rich, but if I understand correctly, XC3 is a Windows game that just happens to be released on DVD.