Yaoi games

Visual Novel Community Archive, 2000-2009
#35
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Originally posted by perigee:

Before PP solicited yaoi games, there was hardly any interest in them on this BBS. Now that the word has gotten out, we've had lots of vocal fans dropping by. I don't doubt your passion, just your strength of numbers. If the yaoi contingent had been as large over the past decade as you seem to imply, it would be us b-gamers on your sites asking to be heard. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]


EXCUSE me, I didn't come to this website asking to be heard. I came to this website because this website AS A MATTER OF FACT is translating those BL games I was speaking about. And I came here to discuss about it. If I wanted to "ask to be heard" then I'd have come to a company that wasn't translating BL games and begging them to do that.

Also it is funny that you mention Wikipedia as a "reference". Funny because some articles concerning H-games on the wikipedia were written by me. And even funnier because everyone could change that article you just mentioned by simply clicking on "edit". But anyway, you might be right or wrong, I'll keep calling erotic games with girls as H-games. Much easier to write than a long periphrasis, and everyone understands me. :P



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I'm not saying they'll take away the B-game market. I'm saying they may divert development resources. If you've followed PP's history of product releases, they bring out a couple new games a year, at best. Unless they brought a lot of new staff on board recently, I don't see how they intend to maintain the current release rate as well as start a new product line. I'll be happy to be proven wrong. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]


Aaaaah, finally, NOW I understand what was the problem for you!!
I don't know about that then, you'd better ask the company itself. I never thought that translation of BL games could mean more H-games translated. (I personally don't think this will ever happen anyway, so you're worrying about nothing.)


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If I'm right, I won't have to ask where's that new H-game[sic]? I'll know. It will be delayed because someone's busy working on a yaoi game. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/frown.gif[/img][/B]


I shall state it again: NOW I see what you had against BL games. My bad to not have understood that before. Then I have nothing else to tell you, since in this case, it's not like me or you have nothing to do with it. :P

#36
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Originally posted by perigee:
To use an analogy, it's like seeing your favorite restaurant expand the menu to attract new customers. It usually doesn't enhance your dining experience. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/frown.gif[/img]

Suppose this restaraunt is a very unique restaraunt. One of a kind, in fact. There were a few other places that tried to offer the same cuisine, but they all folded. Now imagine that this restaraunt you really like is barely treading water.

I think at this point anything that improves the sales of ... well, "b-games" doesn't fit -- anything that improves the sales of hgames can only stabilize the market, and be good for us in the long term.

#37
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Originally posted by Lun:
Mister, please read the last paragraph of my posting, placed just over yours.

EDIT: oh well here it is, quoting myself:

"Just to make this post even longer, I would also like to add some things in defense of BL games. Boys, you already have A LOT of hentai games to play - translated in english, featuring videos, animations, and whateverelse. We females never had such thing -only few BL games, all in japanese, that don't feature animated intros or those things I often see when I play H-games. So don't you complain about "more catgirls&yuri" when you hear of BL games coming in the USA, as we poor girls had absolutely nothing for us in the market till now. "

Since no one else seems to have chimed in on this point -- you're absolutely right. Being a straight guy, I have marginally more than zero interest in yaoi; but you're finally getting what you've wanted forever. I know exactly what that feels like. More power to you.

#38
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Originally posted by papillon:
... I think the translation of Water Closet did more damage to the acceptability of the genre than a dozen yaoi games could. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

Someday between the development of artificial intelligence and the day when the robots take over the world, I want to feed all the Ranma 1/2 fanfic I read into a computer and have it create the ULTIMATE x-change game, filled with angst and complex relationships and so many potential outcomes.... (The number of clear potential relationships and directions for the story to go in are, I think, the reason that it's one of the biggest *fanfiction* shows out there.)

I just have one thing to say, really.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/ficbitches/10513.html

I'm sorry. You weren't using your peace of mind, were you?

#39
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Originally posted by perigee:
That's true, of course. By the same argument there could be a huge, pent-up demand for bestiality games, and it's only the fact that we haven't seen any released yet that's hiding it. I don't believe that for a minute. I'm saying the jury is still out.

Beware. This is exactly the same argument that was used to prove that "everybody knows nobody plays RPG's". (In the pre-FF7 days, I mean.) And in fact this logic is the reason we aren't seeing all the b-games we all want to play.

If everyone always sticks with the safe bets, the inevitable result is stagnation.

#40
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Originally posted by perigee:
The simple fact is that yaoi-lovers, like yuri-lovers, have been too small a segment to create their own market. The majority of fans seem to prefer heterosexually themed erogames.

Based on what data? I believe Peter said in another thread elsewhere on this board that he was willing to bring yuri games over, but no one was making them. Nobody's ever tried bringing a yaoi game over before, so there is no real sales data whatsoever. It is quite unsurprising that yaoi games have 0% market share when none are available. (Economist types refer to this as a "market failure", I believe?)

Yarugee is far and away the best-selling genre. Crescendo and Kana, and the Angel Smile games -- none of them did very well, to my knowledge. Does that mean no more of them should be brought over?

#41

If there is one new market that has developed in the past year or so in the US are women coming into anime/manga. Started with shoujo manga titles like FruBa, the BL titles now are the ones catching the interest. Just about every major US manga publisher is releasing or will be releasing some BL title.

Not only should we expect companies to bring over other product this target audience desires, a stronger overall market in these mediums means more chances of growing it. And as is noted, strengthens the chances of more titles targeting our audience coming over.

#42

Well, my 2 cents here, I think anything that will help make Peter and his company money is good. So if these titles sell well, then I’ll be glad, even though I won’t even think of buying them. But overall, if Peter has more money, he has more options for games he can get liscenses to translate. The more options he has, the more options we’ll end up having for games to play. And that, in my eyes, can never be a bad thing. I’d like to see as many different and unique kind of games translated into english as possible. Oh, except nothing else like water closet. We can live without more of that, I think.

#43

Sooo, is “Water Closet” an hentai game about the urolagnia fetish? (That is, urine and WC and things related?) Oh my at last you’ve got to admit it’s original, I think. XD

I fully agree with the replies lately posted in this topic. There’s nothing else to add to it.

Now to return to my previous subject… I was wondering if priest-boy and 12-old-boy have been censored from the English version of Zettai Fukujuu Meirei. Those two characters are missing, but after all Silvio and Ferdinand haven’t been mentioned too, so I wanted to know if it’s only for the buyer’s surprise and they actually are in the game (well since I see no reason to censor the two last ones I mentioned)?

#44
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Originally posted by Lun:
Sooo, is "Water Closet" an hentai game about the urolagnia fetish? (That is, urine and WC and things related?) Oh my at last you've got to admit it's original, I think. XD

Water Closet indeed focusses on all the things that can happen in toilets - or rather the more unusual things and also on scatology and urination.

The story is always told from one out of five female protagonist's view, and thus it merges 5 different stories that happen atthe same time at the same place into its gameplay.
One special feature here is that events in each of the five scenarios can unlock events in others, so after you have played through all five scenarios for a first time, you may start again with the first one and will now find new branches. The same goes of course for the other four.

However, some things that happen in this game are a bit difficult to stomach for unprepared people. That's why I also make an exception and don't argue this time the usage of the term "hentai game", as I usually would do.

As a matter of fact, I can accept the usage of this term for four games that already have been localized to the english language:

  • Water Closet
  • Tsuki
  • Shukketsubo - Virgin Ro(a)ster
  • Sensei 2
#45
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You weren't using your peace of mind, were you?

I run a (currently mostly defunct because of difficulty finding new stories) hentai fanfic review site.

I've also visited FurryMUCK.

I have seen MUCH worse than that. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

(Actually, from skimming the review, I'm pretty sure the fic author has been to Furry...)

But my raving Ranma fanfic fetish deserves a thread of its own and not just an offshoot of yaoi. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img] (I don't generally read m/m Ranma anyway...)

#46

Mmmh, reading what Unicorn wrote, “Water Closet” doesn’t look -that- bad a game. I’m -definitely- not into urolagnia, scatology and the such, but I can somehow accept them if part of a S/M setting.
Definitely the japanese can convey all possible perversions in those videogames. I find it amusing, at last they aren’t ashamed of anything (theoretically… considering japanese culture’s hypocrisy XD ).

As a reply to Papillon, since I am too a “furry fan”, I would like to underline once and for all that there is an enormous difference between furry hentai and zoophilia. Just like when hentai or yaoi games portrait characters that are under 15 years old, it does not mean that who plays those games is a pedophiliac.

Anyway… no one has replied my question about Zettai Fukujuu Meirei yet. Someone from the staff? Please? o.o;

#47

Oh, I wasn’t making any comment about zoophilia. Just that I’ve seen more people on Furry openly admitting to what would be considered BIZARRE fetishes than anywhere else on the net. Not everyone there has them, by a long shot! But there are people with very strange tastes.

Like “guy who wants to be crushed to death by a snake, in a sexual way”. Or the unbirthing and vore crowds. Or the person who plays a walking rubber sperm bank. She sloshes when she moves.

#48
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But anyway, you might be right or wrong, I'll keep calling erotic games with girls as H-games. Much easier to write than a long periphrasis, and everyone understands me. :P

Everyone will understand you if you use the term "b-games". Only change one letter. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
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I believe Peter said in another thread elsewhere on this board that he was willing to bring yuri games over, but no one was making them.

In the same thread, actually. But not everyone reads the thread first before making a reply. Smoo is an example of that...
Peter Payne said:
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We're still waiting for Yuri to coalesce as a genre. There are very few all Yuri manga released in Japan, for example, and I can't think of any doujinshi circles that we know of that do all girl/girl. I am totally interested in Yuri though.

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Anyway.... no one has replied my question about Zettai Fukujuu Meirei yet. Someone from the staff? Please? o.o;

They usually don't visit this board. E-mail Peter Payne.
#49

Zettai looks very good. I haven’t played it much yet, just tested it in preparation for translation. It’s interesting how there are two main characters, it’d be cool to see them do more of this in b-games.

#50
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Originally posted by Peter Payne:
Zettai looks very good. I haven't played it much yet, just tested it in preparation for translation. It's interesting how there are two main characters, it'd be cool to see them do more of this in b-games.


I personally prefer Enzai on a matter of plot, being that Zettai's storyboard is only a silly excuse for sex scenes without even putting effort in pretending to have any other purpose.... but anyway, that wasn't my question.

My question, I'll repeat it once again, is WILL ANEL AND EDUARD GET CENSORED IN THE ENGLISH VERSION OF THE GAME?

#51

My suggestion, which I will repeat again, is TO E-MAIL Peter Payne!

#52

i found peach princess from buying brave soul, it’s pretty cool.
anyway- i’m a yaoi fanatic and when i heard that you guys released those yaoi games, i can’t help but try looking for it, but i guess i’ll have to wait for it to come to the philippines, ne?
i failed to mention that the store where i bought brave soul is now closed so i’ll have to search harder now…
anyone else in the phils who might help?

#53

I can personally recommend Enzai. It’s very violent and pretty disturbing in places, but it has an amazing story. I’m not really one to say I’m turned on by yaoi, but the story was really worth it in Enzai’s case, even though it’s much darker than I usually like my games.

I have no experience playing the other title, however, so can’t help you there.

#54

We’ll get the yaoi games out as soon as we can. Hard at work on them now, in fact.