C-G's Virtual-Mate?

Visual Novel Community Archive, 2000-2009
#681
quote:
Originally posted by Dark_Shiki:
@Italicus: Would you please stop posting the same thing over and over...we know you're angry but it doesn't accomplish anything, and it just serves to annoy people further.

[This message has been edited by Dark_Shiki (edited 10-25-2004).]

LOL. This thread is so long i didn't realize i posted the same thing before.

@ perigee

So the CD image was a cynical joke. Very well done. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

@ SCDawg

Dunno.

@ everybody

I scanned on G-Coll BBS, particularly on Mahoro Fan posts.

He polemized 'bout the fact almost all of us play B-games in their houses - personally i like to play on my laptop when i'm in my country house, especially on the farming season,- but i think he forgot a decisive factor - correct me plz if i'm wrong : i don't think there 'll be so much people willing - due to that particular nature of b-games - to be checked via internet . Because, if you don't have to stay connected to play, you need to connect to be checked and registered shortly for play. Or NO?


#682
quote:
Originally posted by Italicus:
...but i think he forgot a decisive factor - correct me plz if i'm wrong : i don't think there 'll be so much people willing - due to that particular nature of b-games - to be checked via internet . Because, if you don't have to stay connected to play, you need to connect to be checked and registered shortly for play. Or NO?

That goes back to my earlier point about the mindset of the average American b-gamer. Ecchifan disagreed. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

And yes, you posted pretty much the same message (give or take a few words) 3 or 4 times in a row. It was annoying. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

#683

Sooowyyyyyyyyy…

#684
quote:
Originally posted by Dark_Shiki:
That goes back to my earlier point about the mindset of the average American b-gamer. Ecchifan disagreed. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

And I still disagreed. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img] Putting aside h-games for a moment, if you consider the online adult market (webcams, porn sites, etc.), there'a lot of money flowing to these venues. On credit card, and entirely traceable. Am I supposed to believe that the American consumers for these products come from a thin slice of American society? or would it more reasonable to suggest that a good portion of them are "average Americans"? Where are buyers coming from?

#685
quote:
Originally posted by Dark_Shiki:
Yes, it would. Listening to us and reporting back to their superiors is one thing. You don't need to post to do that. However, impersonating customers is another thing entirely. Something like that would indicate that they have sunk beyond salvation to me. A rabid dog doesn't need sharp words and a slap on the paw. It needs to be put out of its misery.

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Yet none of them have said they are customers, do they? So long as they do not represent themselves as customers they do not have to admit to being anything else. Posting too gives them a chance to bounce ideas off of us, chances to try and calm by offering ideas we did not think of while not come from the people that are making us upset.

Once again so long as they don't say "we're customers" it's not wrong, whatever we assume is our own business. I am merely throwing it out as an idea because I know of times it has been done before, not online, but it has been done.

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#686
quote:
Originally posted by Ecchifan:
And I still disagreed. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img] Putting aside h-games for a moment, if you consider the online adult market (webcams, porn sites, etc.), there'a lot of money flowing to these venues. On credit card, and entirely traceable. Am I supposed to believe that the American consumers for these products come from a thin slice of American society? or would it more reasonable to suggest that a good portion of them are "average Americans"? Where are buyers coming from?


Ahem, i'm not the one supposed to kill them, but most of pirates are 15 aged guys...
Just imagine these as customers. And BTW there are CC in Italy for young people, too. In toto exactly as a normal one.

#687

how about a more relevant example. It would be safe to assume that the majority of customers for J-list are located in the U.S. Do you believe that they use credit cards to pay for their merchandise? And have packages sent home? or would they go the secretive route instead (pay in cash/m.o. and sent to a 3rd party mailing address)?

I strongly believe that the purchase of GC products by Americans are, on average, out in the open rather than secretively. Of course, I’m discounting underaged buyers (who would have good reason to be secretive about buying GC products).

#688
quote:
Originally posted by Italicus:

Ahem, i'm not the one supposed to kill them, but most of pirates are 15 aged guys...
Just imagine these as customers. And BTW there are CC in Italy for young people, too. In toto exactly as a normal one.

I'm sorry to remind you that GC is an American company that is focused on N.A. market. If they were actively pursuing the Italian market, GC would open up shop in Italy and translating games into Italian. So again I note that Italian customers aren't a consideration for GC for marketing purposes.

#689
quote:
Originally posted by Ecchifan:
I'm sorry to remind you that GC is an American company that is focused on N.A. market. If they were actively pursuing the Italian market, GC would open up shop in Italy and translating games into Italian. So again I note that Italian customers aren't a consideration for GC for marketing purposes.

I noticed. We are always B-series customers.

#690
quote:
Originally posted by Ecchifan:
I strongly believe that the purchase of GC products by Americans are, on average, out in the open rather than secretively. Of course, I'm discounting underaged buyers (who would have good reason to be secretive about buying GC products).
I agree, which is why I don't think they waited to announce this since these type of people are the theyp of people that would have demanded a refund if they could not connect to the internet or just did not like not being told until they had the game in their hand, well anyway that is one of the reasons I think they did not wait, anything more noble then that is possible and yet perhaps not as planned.

Yet I also think once the game is bought they do not want to be monitered playing the game.

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#691

Eh…Americans have never been open about porn. As for hentai…well that’s even worse. If your mom finds your porn stash, you might get away with a stern lecture. If she finds your hentai stash…she’ll probably just think you’re a freak. Keep in mind that many customers are probably still living with their parents, even if they are 18+.

As for paying for on-line porn…are you sure about that? There’s plenty of free sites out there…I don’t even need to search for them to happen across them. Hell, you don’t even need to resort to piracy…

#692

LOL Dark_Shiki you’re right!

#693

@ woodelf

If i want porn, i just have to wait for my girl to come back from one of her works’ travels…

#694

Err…of course I am…I think…

…what were we talking about again?

#695

We were talking ‘bout h-games targets, the customers’ ages, distribution market and so on.

#696

Ah, I thought you’d discovered that your last few posts really were entirely redundant.

#697

Anyway, when do you think G-Collections will finally respond to more of our concerns since they have not yet and it is the 26th, at least on the East Coast.

#698

I really don’t know. I can’t fathom why they didn’t say a word today. Maybe they’re still discussing among themselves and with their Japanese parent company? If that’s the case…who knows when they’ll decide on something. But perhaps they were just waiting for release day to make their grand statement.

#699

It’s almost too little too late by now though, since most people probably don’t care, notice the drop off in this thread’s posting (granted all that could b said has been said perhaps yet still), also G-Collections has had a lot of time to at least make a promise of working on something or to announce plans for something, and yet they might wait to release day? Personally I don’t think it’s ready yet whatever plan they have, but that’s why its a question of how long before they say something? Before or after the next game?

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#700

I actually find myself feeling apathetic, as well. I’m tired of arguing, and I’m tired of thinking about it. I’ve done what I could to swing this toward what I think will be a favorable outcome. I guess we’ll see if GC makes a statement tomorrow. I’m not holding my breath.