@Murderous Int
I care about games I like, as stated before.
Visual Novels fall under this category as well, yes.
But I care shit about if people like the same stuff as I do, or not.
If they happen to like this as well, great, if not, that's also fine.
People relating to the same interests is nothing that is that important to me, to be honest, so, the community aspect is practically non-existent to me.
I'm well aware I'm going overboard here, but the thing is, I'm even right about it; censorship is something bad, and nobody likes a censored game and would prefer a complete build over a build that has been cut, right?
The more content, the better.
If a game gets localized and I'm being interested and then at a point hear it's being censored, it is a slap in my face; of course, I'm ranting about it then.
There's a compromise for people going digital... well, the overall compromise is that the game is stil available in itself in the state I would like to see it; but I'm certainly not gonna spend money for a download.
I want something that I can show to my friends and say ''Look, this game is just awesome, how about you try it out yourself? Maybe it's your cup of tea as well.''.
It's much easier elaborating on these games then simply sending them a link to a site where they could grab it for free; not even then, they are interested; not sure if it's because of my wording or their own preferences, but it simply doesn't work.
However, I noticed it works much better, when actually showing them the hardcopies; they are atleast more interested in it than in when I simply show them screenshots over the internet.
Regarding why I can't burin it to CD?
Simply because I want an official product - what good does it serve me to have this stuff on a burned CD?
Then, I could easily have downloaded the patch from somewhere else - it's exactly the same result, a result I want to take my distance of.
Who said that it will definitely available?
Unless I'm missing that Jast itself stated to make said patch, I fail to see the evidence.
My understanding was that we are just hoping for someone to pick it up, crack it and make it uncensored - ''it either happens, or not'' is anything but a viable alternative, to me atleast.
I don't want to blame just, Peter or anyone else for this. After all, they wouldn't even had to go through the trouble of mentioning their regret about not being able to include this (atleast not yet, if ever) in the current release, and considering the circumstances, they can't include the content in question to the official release.
But I still don't understand why not delaying the release date then, if everyone would be much happier with it being uncensored... I thought the only reason it is not being included is due to the translators running the risk of getting into legal trouble.
Darn it, I would ask around for people lending a hand, I'm serious about this.
It's just... you know, frustrating.
Supposedly ''questionable'' content like that is always screwed, and this won't change anytime soon.
I would have wished for Jast to take the bold step of moving past the middle age and taing pride in releasing their games, even if they offer such content.
I would complain about Starless, Euphoria or whatever other title with such content as well; the only reason I haven't in regards of Starless, for example, is because I'm not into the artwork, character apperance and themes of this title. In itself, everything I think about this applies to this title as well in regards to what I think about how such titles are being handled in general; I wished we could finally remove this stigma.
Shouldn't people that are able to change something make the changes?
Simply waiting for a change might happen, or doesn't - active steps involved in making changes starts the process, not simply ''waiting it out''.
To get back to the topic, sure, I can understand everyone, not just Peter, but regular users that have posted here as well, about disagreeing with me; if some prick came up and doesn't get his will because of reasons and he not wanting to give in about them, potentially ruining the localization of a whole type of genre (though I doubt that my opinion alone would have that much of an impact on this change of attitude), I would feel annoyed about that person and would revolt as well, telling that person to finally shut up.
But in the end, I am the only one here that is screwed. If I don't get a game the way I see fit, then I don't even want to play it to begin with.
But I'm pretty sure we both, and I unfortunately have to agree with that, know the answer about this:
''Deal with it.''
And exactly that is pissing me off.
Not exactly Jast censoring it, it's more why they are censoring it. Because of our shitty society condemning everything they don't understand and deem as ''inappropriate'' or ''harmful'', even though it isn't even to begin with.
The circumstances, and why I am the only one who's screwed is what's pissing me off the most.
I'm just slightly disappointed in Jast not taking said bold step.
Well, in the end, it's a business; I'm not really grateful for people doing their job.
I understand the circumstances and that localizing visual novels in the west is nothing that makes you become rich and that people, who do this are doing this mostly because of loving these games as much as I do, if not even more.
I can respect that, and believe me, I do.
But even if I'm so passionate about something like this, I would never want to deal with making a business out of it; I'm not insane, because there exist nitpicky people like me.
And in the end, it is a business - it comes with a severe risk bringing these titles to the west, right?
I mean, there's no guarantee that what you sell is being bought for sure.
I'm pretty sure it's touch to deal with such circumstances, but again - that's why I wouldn't even think about localizing them; it's way too risky, in my opinion.
I appreciate that people to localize such games; not just Jast, but Mangagamer, Sekai Project, Moenovel (yes, even Moenovel) as well.
But they shouldn't really expect my sympathy if something in regards to censorship happens with the games they distribute.
It's a give and take; I give a publisher my money, and said publisher gives me a game I enjoy playing.
If a game is, however, limited in content due to social standards interfering and the game not being ''good enough'' to cope for that (I'm new to the Days series, so I'm neutral about Shiny Days as well and can't say if it's a good title, or not; what I see looks appealing enough for me to justify a purchase though), then this publisher won't get my money either.
And I'm even willed to buy it... and I'm still being screwed.
Can you imagine how frustrating this is? :/
Not everyone sees things as severe as I do, but I was always like that when it came down to things I like, even as a child.
I have no desire to change this attitude in the future either.
If people think of me as being ''childish'' or ''immature'' because of being like ''But, but I want my game like that!! :'('', well, they probably do have a point, to an extent.
However, I'm also critically-thinking and rational enough to point out my flaws; believe me, I'm well aware of what I'm typing here and my reactions to the censorship of Shiny Days.
I just don't mind them, since it's my opinion.
And I don't care about what others think - people on the internet can barely make any accurate assumptions about my personality, my character and my interests, as well as point of views and ideals.
Regarding Moenovel, I agree that what they pulled off was shitty.
But I didn't care too much about this; I wanted to by IMHHW as well, but after it got censored, nope.
And this wasn't just talk - I still haven't bought it and have no plans of doing so, unless they reconsider putting in the H-content.
Now porn isn't that important to me, if I wanted to jack off, there are other alternatives.
I just can't stand the idea behind cutting out parts of a game and robbing me from the experience I would have under normal circumstances.
I think it's up to me what kinds of material I want to watch, right?
This includes H-content of games I play as well.
And of course, I don't see it as a win for games I like being not localized; but first off, how many (good) loli-themed games have even been localized into English to begin with?
Not too many... I still wished something light on this content, like from Shining Star, would make it to the west, but this hasn't happened yet, unfortunately.
Can't blame people about this though, but I thought these games would have been great for Mangagamer, since they seem to pick up pretty much everything they can get their hands on.
Mediocre art, some sort of easy-to-implement gameplay and some loli characters - the latter isn't even that important, as mentioned before, I'm talking about titles being light on this kind of stuff.
But what I wrote here is just the kind of games I mean - if it has to be something loli-themed, then something that is light on it and justifiable.
I mean, all of this stuff is, in theory, justifiable, but not everything is deemed to be ''appropriate'' form social standards, as you know.
But that is, in my opinion, the best thing that could happen for compromising.
Heck, I didn't go through the trouble of contacting Shining Star myself over e-mail for nothing, after all.
I'm still surprised that I received an answer of them, them stating that they allow localization of their games.
The best thing is: I'm not even that much of a fan of their work.
I certainly don't hate it, I sorta even sorta like what I've seen so far about their titles; they are simplistic, not too hardcore (from what I understand, feel free to correct me at this point, in case you know it better) and still manage to serve to the group of people that are into 2D lolis in visual novel-themed games.
But in the end, no, it's not a win, but I either want a game uncensored, or not even localized to begin with.
Now I certainly won't complain about more visual novels being localized here - I'm complaining about if they do get localized, that certain themes always get cut.
And that's something I don't want to support, and in the case of Shiny Days, I will even do just that, ironically enough, even if every fiber of my body revolts against purchasing a butchered product.
These aforementioned ''lighter loli-themed games'' probably wouldn't have to be cut, so that was my idea behind this.
But so far, nobody has been picking such titles up, as far as I know, so I sorta feel neglected by our current western publishers that are localizing visual novels.
It feels to me like publishers are trying to alienate themselves from such content, and this makes me kinda disappointed actually, since there is nothing wrong with such content, unless it is some hardcore shit as ''Yuzuminatsu''.
But even then - it's just a game.
I probably shouldn't feel too piqued about this whole thing here, but that doesn't mean that I'm not frustrated about the current situation.
I'm not writing these massive walls of text out of boredom, you know. :/
I'm trying to change something about the current situation.
I'm not some SJW (I hate such self-righteous creeps), but I feel like what society as a whole thinks about such supposedly questionable content is wrong, and I would love to see them reconsidering their point of view about these games.
I noticed that even though I recommended titles that don't offer anything ''questionable'' and that is also present in most animes, they still wouldn't check it out.
''Games are meant to be played, and not to be read.'' is what I hear most of the time.
Same as ''Marunomi''.
I recommended it to multiple people, yet they weren't really interested, despite it being a great game (in my opinion, mind you), and if they got slightly interested, as soon as they saw the front cover, they got scared away.
Oh well, why am I even writing all of this? >_>
but it was essential, and with the ‘fan patch’ 
editing the content in, I don’t mind anywhere near as much 