Refresh my memory, Lamuness...

Yeah, true Ai Yori Aoshi and Chobits aren’t finished, and it may all go downhill in last dvds, but so far, they’re better than some I’ve seen. There’s also probably some I should have added that I can’t remember.

And I haven’t seen them yet but hear all this stuff about Fruit Baskets and Strawberry Eggs, Sugar (to some extent) and I get hungry. Well, that, and they’re ones that shouldn’t be missed. I have the money, but not the time. Now doesn’t that just suck? You know you’re able to get it, but you just can’t. It’s like having money to buy the car of your dreams, but you get drafted into war or you’re sent off on a 6 month business trip.

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On a sidenote, I’m a semi-grammatically correct person, which is why I edit a lot. I’m not a grammatics perfectionist, otherwise, I’d be editing to no end and pointing out other people’s flaws all the time. So be thankful for that.

ok some of my favorite animes now , in no particular order except the first one :

Saber Marionette J (top favorite number 1!!!)
Rurouni Kenshin (OVA)
Tenchi Muyo
Dirty Pair
Macross Plus
Evangelion
Slayers
Record of Lodoss War
Princess Mononoke

and just for the record, I HATE SAILOR MOON

Here’s my top ten

Trigun
Lupin III
Ah! Megamisama: Chichaitte Kotowa Benri Dane
Shoujo Kakumei Utena
Saint Tail
Ah! Megamisama
Aozora Shoujo Tai
Mahou Tsukai Tai
Pet Shop of Horrors
Cardcaptor Sakura

My fav. didn’t change much for a decade:

  • Fav. TV series:
    - Urusei Yatsura
    - Z Gundam
    - Kimagure Orange Road
    - Space Adventure Cobra
    - Sailormoon
    - Kakyuusei
  • Fav. OAV series
    - Vampire Princess Miyu
    - Dream Hunter REM
    - Gall Force
    - Serial Experiment Lain
    - Metal Idol Key
  • Fav. movies
    - Hotaru no haka
    - Laputa
    - Char’s Counterattack
    - Mononoke hime

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Tsssss.

Shame on you!
Lists of preferred animes are hardly off-topic.

How about a little bit randomness, like this:

Hey ekylo!
There is an old carnivals-song here in germany, stating that there is no point in going to Hawaii because there is no beer on Hawaii.

Is that still true or was that even back in the late 1960ies, when the song was written, a plain lie?

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Bah, we could also talk about our fav. anime characters, manga characters, bishoujo game characters, anime seiyuus and game seiyuus…

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Originally posted by Unicorn:

How about a little bit randomness, like this:

Hey ekylo!
There is an old carnivals-song here in germany, stating that there is no point in going to Hawaii because there is no beer on Hawaii.

Is that still true or was that even back in the late 1960ies, when the song was written, a plain lie?


*blink* Well, except probably during prohibition, it's pretty much a lie. I can't be entirely sure since it was before my time but even in the 60's, local brands like "Primo" existed. Today, it's mainly microbreweries for local stuff but we also have the "domestics" and "imports" as well. A bit expensive at times (I had to give up Heinekein after moving back here, got too expensive per bottle) but at least you do get a chance to try some of the Japanese beers. Why? Were you planning on stopping by and wanted me to drag you around to various bars or something? [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

quote:
Originally posted by bokmeow:
Here's my top ten

Trigun
Lupin III
Ah! Megamisama: Chichaitte Kotowa Benri Dane
Shoujo Kakumei Utena
Saint Tail
Ah! Megamisama
Aozora Shoujo Tai
Mahou Tsukai Tai
Pet Shop of Horrors
Cardcaptor Sakura


Aozora Shoujo Tai? Whazzat? I don't think I've ever heard of that one before...

quote:
Originally posted by olf_le_fol:
Bah, we could also talk about our fav. anime characters, manga characters, bishoujo game characters, anime seiyuus and game seiyuus... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

What would a newbie know about any of that?

...on the other hand, we DO need some more talk to liven up the board here. So what's so great about Triangle Hearts, anyway?

quote:
Originally posted by Nandemonai:
Aozora Shoujo Tai? Whazzat? I don't think I've ever heard of that one before...

Aozora Shoujo Tai was called 801 TTS Airbats here in the states, from ADV Films. I guess 'Blue Sky Female Aerotroopers' wasn't catchy enough for them.

quote:
Originally posted by Nandemonai:
So what's so great about Triangle Hearts, anyway?

Mio-chan! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

quote:
Originally posted by ekylo:
Were you planning on stopping by and wanted me to drag you around to various bars or something? [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

Actually, it was yesterday very hot weather and suddenly, that silly song popped up in my mind... I always wanted to have that checked and suddenly, I realized there is someone, that I could ask about that.

Well, actually I don't even like the taste of beer (have given up on it about 8 years ago) and Hawaii is a bit off my usual roads, but after a second thought, stopping by sounds like a good idea...

My Favorite Anime’s

Record of Lodoss War (My email address is a dead giveaway) OVA’s and TV

You’re Under Arrest

Revolutionary Girl Utena

Kimagure Orange Road

Akira

Ninja Scroll

Princess Mononoke

SDF Macross (Robotech be Damned!)

quote:
Originally posted by Nandemonai:
So what's so great about Triangle Hearts, anyway?
I've talked about this game a lot, so I thought about writing down my impressions.

As always, first, disclaimers: please look at my recommendations score to see what my opinion is worth; meaning I'm usually easily pleased with a game. ^_^


Also, Lamuness gave in Anime Densetsu a review. You can check there for another point of view (note though that he reviewed the old version while I'm reviewing the recent DVD-released version, as far as bugs are concerned...)


"Triangle Heart" (Toraha for the fans) is a game series created in 12.18.1998 by jANIS in association with Ivory. The official page is here: http://www.sp-janis.com/soft/trh.shtml

It was very successful a series, leading to 2 another games, 2 toyboxes and a DVD edition (containing all previous games and toyboxes with additional scenarii) and have its own official page. It have its own CD collection (the Sound Stage CDs), two OVA anime series (one released, one to be released soon), the usual goods (novels, artbooks, etc. While jANIS and Ivory released some little goods, Face is the main source for most goods. I probably will talk about the drama in another message. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

Toraha1:


Graphics: good and cute (IMO [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]). In game, Toraha1 uses blurred real scenes as backgrounds. The number of CGs is pretty average (151) and includes a _high_ number of H ones (104 = 69%).


Music: pleasant, without being exceptional. There is one OP and two ED songs, quite enjoyable.


Gameplay: Toraha is an ADV. Nonetheless, I liked its gameplay, which I found practical: you could play with the keyboard only, which quicken the gameplay a lot IMO (don't like when you _have_ to use the mouse). Most "move" choices happen at school, where you can choose where you're going; it's very easy to go after a specific girl, as the face of the girl whom you'll meet at a location appears when you select that location.


Characters: seven winnable and five supporting cast.


Why I like the game.

The background is quite standard: you're playing a highschooler, Aikawa Shin'ichirou, who will, in the course of the game, fall in love with a girl. Though Shin'ichirou himself isn't the average ren'ai game protagonist (i.e. he's not completely stupid! ^_-, is quite short and has a feminine face), it's not what makes Toraha1 *that* different from the zillions other highschool love games.

What makes this difference are the female characters.

Sure, you may take into account the stories themselves. Contrary to some games, Toraha's stories are quite independant, meaning each story goes its own way, with little join. Each story follows 3 phases: first, you "discover" the girl and fall in love with her (and vice-versa); second, both of you enjoy a lover "normal" time (i.e. you're dating); third, some "crisis" happens, breaking the lover time and you resolve this "crisis". While it may not appear so, this story structure actually benefits the game, giving the player the opportunity to truly "discover" the girl and enjoy a "normal" love life with her, during which you will date her, bed her (eventually #^_^#), etc. and probably truly care for her.

You can also talk about the sex scenes, in which you can choose how you make love to the girl (for instance, you can choose to... massage the girl's breasts before... massaging... somewhere else ##^_^##) and which are (of course) replayable in the omake mode.

But the most attractive feature remains the girls themselves.

First, Toraha1 has a quite unique cast of female characters, from the ninja Izumi to the _two_ childhood friends Yuiko and Kotori to the karateka senpai Hitomi to a ghost, an assassin and a half-vampire/half-werewolf. Each with their personality and story. And all loveable.

This difference in characters allows Toraha to put into the same game stories of very different tones: from dark supernatural stories to ninja stories to normal highschooler stories. The story structure allows it to make the player truly care for the girl, as you feel as if you truly date her.

At last, and even more than everything else, I loved the endings.

A love story doesn't end when you fall in love, nor when you make your declaration and start a love relationship (which is where 90% games end), nor even at your marriage or first child. Toraha's endings takes you at the start of a new beginning, or in your future with your happy family life to even... farer. One of its endings is my fav. for every and all endings I ever get in a ren'ai games, the one I found the most romantic.

Also, Toraha is one of the very few games (the others being... Toraha2 and Toraha3! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]) in which I actually like all the characters. If forced to chose a fav, I... probably won't chose anyone, because it's really hard to chose one of them!!! Thing is... sometimes I loved the girl, and sometimes I loved the story, so it's hard to chose a fav... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]


Oh, just a note, you can have pretty bad endings in this game (i.e. you can die!).


Toraha2:


Graphics: good and cute (IMO [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]). This time, Toraha2 uses drawn pictures as backgrounds. The number of CGs is lower than in Toraha1 (118) and still includes a _high_ number of H ones (53 = 45%).


Music: pleasant, without being exceptional. There is one OP and two ED songs, very enjoyable.


Gameplay: Toraha2 is still an ADV. Apparently, it was supposed to be a SIM (the old interface allows you to choose daily activities), but it was turned into an ADV (the new interface in the DVD edition is ADV-only). As in the previous game, the face of the girl whom you'll meet at a location appears when you select that location.


Characters: nine winnable main, three winnable secret and four supporting cast.


Why I like the game.

The setting is more original than the previous game: you're Makihara Kousuke and was asked by your aunt to temporarily replace her as the manager of an all-girls dormitory. What is interesting to notice is that you're an _adult_, i.e. you're not a student anymore, which is a change from the "inexperienced young boy" of most of ren'ai games. In fact, you even had a previous love experience. This is interesting, as it gives a different tone to the stories.

The game happens in the same universe as the previous game, so you'll have cameo appearances of characters from Toraha1 (in fact, two of them are winnable, one of them was your previous girlfriend... and one of the girl dates Shin'ichirou in one of the story! ^^;;; [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img].

The game structure is almost like the previous one, with a trick beginning. Indeed, most residents of the dormitory doesn't like you being there AT ALL so in the first part, you'll have to earn their trust (and it's not *that* easy, believe me...).

In a way, I think the stories in Toraha2 are not as good as in Toraha1. Or perhaps it's the characters who aren't as interesting as in Toraha1. But, if I think about why I like Toraha2, I think it's, in a way, normal.

In Toraha2, you're the manager of the Sazanami dormitory, thus live around the girls and have to take care of them. This define the atmosphere: a family. It is what I liked and enjoyed most about Toraha2: the family atmosphere. Even more, as the manager (and among the few grown-ups of the dorm), you have a fatherly (and sometimes motherly [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]) position on the girls, having to prepare the meals, doing the housework, watching the "kids", etc.


Of course, Toraha2 still has a unique set of characters: a singer-to-be, a ghost-hunter, an ESPer/Angel, another ESPer, a catgirl, a sword (yeah, _sword_) spirit and some more "normal" characters, but they seem less memorable that the girls in Toraha1. And in fact, it's true... if you take them alone to make the comparison. Because the Toraha2 characters are part of this family, and, without the others they seem less that what they are. And, so, even if each story is pretty unique (and you still have the broad range of stories as in Toraha1) and good, it's not the story of the girl and Kousuke only which is important, but it's their story, surrounded by all the other people of the dorm (in fact, in one of the story, you marry one of the girl and adopt another).


A comment: since you _may_ think so, Toraha2 is not "Love Hina" AT ALL!!! Kousuke is a very mature guy (and a genius cook!!), a diligent worker and a righteous man: he won't go after many girls at the same time. So, no, no fanservice; the _only_ sex events are when he makes love to the woman he's in love with.


Another note: I think one of the story is waaay too lolicon, though... ^^;;;;;;

Toraha3:


The way I talked about them, you thought Toraha1 and Toraha2 were very good? Well, they are. And yet, Toraha3 is better than them (IMO). In every way.

But you'll have to wait for next time, as I have to go. *grins*


Next time: Toraha3, the drama, the toyboxes and the OVAs.

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Originally posted by Unicorn:
Mio-chan! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]
For the record, while I love all the girls in Toraha2 as well, I love most of them as friends or little sister or children. So, I would have fav., i.e. ones I would rather pursue in a romantic way. And they are Yuuhi and Ai.

EDT (ATT: Spec): No, this was NOT a review!!! I once said I won't write review (on the BBS), so it is not!!! Just a short... presentation of the game, like last time about "Machine Maiden". ^_-

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blink Boy Olf-san, were you bored or something? Such a long post…

Nevermind, since Nandemonai-san brought the subject up, I’ll just blame him instead…

quote:
Originally posted by ekylo:
*blink* Boy Olf-san, were you bored or something? Such a long post... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]

Nevermind, since Nandemonai-san brought the subject up, I'll just blame him instead... [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]


I'll wait till it OLF's post comes out on Cliff Notes. :Grin:

quote:
Originally posted by Unicorn:
Mio-chan! [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

quote:
Originally posted by olf_le_fol:
For the record, while I love all the girls in Toraha2 as well, I love most of them as friends or little sister or children. So, I would have fav., i.e. ones I would rather pursue in a romantic way. And they are Yuuhi and Ai.

Sigh.
I actually intended to tease Nandemonai with a rather short and meaningless answer to a big question. Instead, I stirred the wrath of olf_le_dragon...

Actually, I can't compare the characters from Toraha 1 and Toraha 2 because I may have the games but still didn't start playing them seriously. I only know the characters from the first three OVA-episodes and they are all from Toraha 2.
But I have to admit, the rather unusual mix of characters in a quite more familiar setting appealed me most. After all, at first it resembled Love Hina, only withthe difference that even Kaolla Su would have been quite dull compared to the characters in this story.

I also loved "Breath of Fire 3" and "Breath of fire 4" not because of one special character, even less because of the always present characters Ryu and Nina, but because of the quite more unusual sidecasts.
*** SPOILER ***
For example "Ershin" was great! It was even better after the goddess had hatched.
*** END OF SPOILER ***

(Hey, this is the off-topic thread! So, I am obliged to add something not-bishoujo to this post.)

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see? olf_le_loli is an otaku!

How about some porno term help?
what are the porno terms for older to acient women…?