So how many here watch anime and read manga

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Originally posted by SCDawg:
Any sites names you can recommend that would fit this mold?

It's almost always just physical stores that do that. There's a Suncoast near me that's selling the 6th Chobits DVD, haven't bought it though, because I barely just ordered the 5th one online and haven't got it yet. But the one thing I'll never forget is that the Tower Records nearby sold the Steel Angel Kurumi Encore DVD three weeks before it was supposed to come out. Now that was cool. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/cool.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by Seishin:
It's almost always just physical stores that do that. There's a Suncoast near me that's selling the 6th Chobits DVD, haven't bought it though, because I barely just ordered the 5th one online and haven't got it yet. But the one thing I'll never forget is that the Tower Records nearby sold the Steel Angel Kurumi Encore DVD three weeks before it was supposed to come out. Now that was cool. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/cool.gif[/img]


The gamestop I get a large portion of my anime from does the same thing; oftentimes they'll have stuff in before it's technically available in a store. Plus they're cheaper - and if something doesn't sell it gets marked down after awhile; of course I cleaned this particular one out of all such stragglers that I was interested in.

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Originally posted by wanfu2k1:

That said unless you have access to this info the movie will seem kinda wierd with Akito's personality switch, and not much explanation to what's going on and what the motives are.


So do I watch it or NOT?
BTW what was the history of Nadesico?
I am not a fan of most movies made after a TV series as they never seem to answer questions you had in the series.

BTW I would have loved to see Nadesico have a second season as they explore this part of the galaxy with realistic space travel.
PS. I like the Noodle Cart on the bridge, something no US series would have -- fresh home cooked food!

I have noticed there are a lot of things in anime that U.S. cartoons would never have, and part of that is cultural difference, but to me that also proves how somewhat sort-sighted most people in the U.S. are when it comes to what cartoons can be if they only let them ‘mature’ beyond shows mainly made for children.

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Originally posted by SCDawg:
I have noticed there are a lot of things in anime that U.S. cartoons would never have, and part of that is cultural difference, but to me that also proves how somewhat sort-sighted most people in the U.S. are when it comes to what cartoons can be if they only let them 'mature' beyond shows mainly made for children.

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It is the TV marketing people that are the problem with most TV shows. While I never tended to belive all that 'English' crap in school -- the author wrote this book with this character representing his bla-bla-bla I still think a good book, or other media can have many levels of meaning. Other than satire most US TV is aimed at Couch Potatos ( children with a better IQ than that ) or for the ratings game and that is the sad part.

Ruri-Ruri's introduction for Nadesico is just what a child would say, and has more wisdom than most adults would care to admit.
A show where both adults and children can learn something as compared to Homer Simson.
** Ohhhh Donuts *** saying his usual line.

Also since anime ( compared to cartoon drawing ) has more detail ( Yes I read the between the lines - the techology used is almost real on Nadesico compared to Star-Trek and much sneakier ) I think they have the time to spend developing personalities of the characters better than live action.

** Mind you real space travel does need large quantites of anti-matter to get off the into deep space. **
Storing the anti-matter is easy getting it is the hard part.

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Originally posted by woodelf:
It is the TV marketing people that are the problem with most TV shows.

I paritally agree with the idea the marketing is to blame, but if people stood up and said, we want this type of show, the markters would be hard pressed not to give them that type of show. I truly believe that is why Star Trek since the 1980's has never and might never leave the airwaves, there is too much following of that show and too many fans willing to watch the same show for the millionth time.

If that energy can be turned toward bringing cartoons into the anime age, without the apperance of quietly admitting that the targeted audience appears to have the attention spans of a gnat and the willingness to learn of a sleeping sloth, I truly think the marketers would have to switch what they market and not be so forceful about marketing what they think people want to see on television.

For now at least making anti-matter is hard, give it a some time and it might be easier then turning on a microwave, though I am giving hope that people will grow in intelligence and the yen to explore space as time moves forward.

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Originally posted by Seishin:
It's almost always just physical stores that do that.

Actually, I know of one online store that does it as well. I just don't use it much because usually the shipping time pretty much eliminates the early release of the show. If you really want to know which one, I can email it to you. Some companies get annoyed when stores release their stuff too early and I'd rather they not get into trouble.

Thanks for the info on Nadesico wanfu2k1-san. That does explain a lot. I'm hoping that things like the .Hack franchise does well enough that other, multi-media series come over completely.

Hmm, Risky Safety. Another series I've been thinking about picking up. Nah, I think I'll finally get around to getting Full Metal Panic first...

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Originally posted by SCDawg:

For now at least making anti-matter is hard, give it a some time and it might be easier then turning on a microwave, though I am giving hope that people will grow in intelligence and the yen to explore space as time moves forward.


Well it has to be the YEN because the USA will not spend the $ to get into space.

You do know about the current X-PRZE contest however to get space tourism started?
http://www.xprize.org/

( Note no Far East entry how ever --- that lack of a test area could be a problem for a country like japan or the main web page is only in english)

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Originally posted by woodelf:
So do I watch it or NOT?
BTW what was the history of Nadesico?
I am not a fan of most movies made after a TV series as they never seem to answer questions you had in the series.

BTW I would have loved to see Nadesico have a second season as they explore this part of the galaxy with realistic space travel.
PS. I like the Noodle Cart on the bridge, something no US series would have -- fresh home cooked food![/B]


If you like popcorn flicks then definately watch it as it's visuals are awesome. Also if you want to see more of the nadesico universe. If your looking for the movie to answer all your questions you had about nadesico the tv series then skip the movies as it will only give you more questions than answers

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Originally posted by ekylo:
Actually, I know of one online store that does it as well. I just don't use it much because usually the shipping time pretty much eliminates the early release of the show. If you really want to know which one, I can email it to you.

I admit my interest is peaked, how is it best to give you my e-mail?

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Originally posted by woodelf:
BTW what was the history of Nadesico?
I am not a fan of most movies made after a TV series as they never seem to answer questions you had in the series.


Ok, I'm separating this post and adding spoiler tags as it spoils some stuff from nadesico.

*****BEWARE THERE ARE SPOILERS HERE*****
This may not be totally accurate since I can't find the thread in the other forum where we discussed the nadesico timeline and backstory leading to the movie, and I'm just posting what I remember.

Basically after the end of nadesico the Jovians and earth signed a peace treaty, the nadesico crew split up to live their lives.
Yurika and Akito become BF/GF.
Yurika and Minato enter a custody battle for Ruri which Yurika wins. Minato adopts Yukina.

So Yurika, Akito, and Ruri live together, eventually marry, and offically adopts Ruri. which is why the 3 of them are going to watch the gekiganger movie in the ova(which i really hope they put out in R1).

Later a group called the Martian Sucessors(which are the villians in the movie) trying to perfect boson jumping start abducting A-class jumpers, who Yurika, Akito and Ines are. They kidnap Akito, and Yurika.

They used Yurika to find a way to control the boson box(the thing nadesico took away at the end of the series) while doing experiments on Akito. Which totally destroys his senses (which explains a lot of his actions and statements in the movie).

Nergal saves akito but was unable to save Yurika. And trains Akito to be stronge and a better pilot. After training Akito basically refuses to join nergal, but works out a deal where he gets that bad ass Aestivallis that he has for the movie. And goes about getting his revenge on the martian successors.

He rescues Lapis on one of his missions and she becomes his partner. (Lapis is alot like Ruri and has alot of the same skills)

That's basically all I remember about the discussion but from that you can see why akito acts the way he does and probably why he left before yurika recovers at the end of the movie


******end spoilers*****

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Originally posted by wanfu2k1:
*** prolog of stuff ***

Is shooting the writer of the movie plot legal? I don't want to kill,just make sure he/she never will write again.
-- This is on the grounds everything the crew worked long and hard for is lost just to have a plot for the movie -- Killing people I can live with, breaking up the marrage I am not happy about!

If I wanted that I could watch US SI-FI movies any time.

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PS… ( Hit the wrong button again )
If I wanted that style of ending could watch US SI-FI movies any time. – See Kirk save the EARTH… See Kirk save the GALAXY … See Kirk save the FEDERATION…
Star Trek was great because it was a hope-full series not because Kirk was great at saveing the ENTERPRIZE. In the late 1960’s it had a promise of hope and a good story (for the time)
. The same idea with Nadesico and war, and hope the war would be over, not that captain was a better commander or the cook was a better figher.

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Originally posted by SCDawg:
I admit my interest is peaked, how is it best to give you my e-mail?

My email is in my profile. Drop me an email and I'll respond, assuming a bunch of servers don't go berserk at work again... (yesterday was a long day...)

Hmm, thanks wanfu2k1-san for all that info. I was able to extrapolate parts of that information, but I wasn't really sure if I was correct or not. But that info definitely helps explain a bunch of other questions I had from the movie. Think I'll sit down and do a marathon Nadesico viewing one of these days...

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Originally posted by ekylo:
My email is in my profile. Drop me an email and I'll respond, assuming a bunch of servers don't go berserk at work again... (yesterday was a long day...)

Hmm, thanks wanfu2k1-san for all that info. I was able to extrapolate parts of that information, but I wasn't really sure if I was correct or not. But that info definitely helps explain a bunch of other questions I had from the movie. Think I'll sit down and do a marathon Nadesico viewing one of these days...


I v'e done that all ready, sick in bed with a cold. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/frown.gif[/img]
That also includes * waffo * too [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

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Yup after reading that thread a bunch of things became clear in the movie that before was like HUH??? what the hell???!!! Especially that part where Ruri tries gives back to Akito the ramen recipe she has been keeping for him, and his response. Also why Akito has Lapis as a partner.

I’m also hoping that the gekiganger ova will soon be release here in R1 land, although it’s nothing more than fluff about Akito and his new family enjoying the premier of the new gekiganger movie

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Originally posted by wanfu2k1:

I'm also hoping that the gekiganger ova will soon be release here in R1 land, although it's nothing more than fluff about Akito and his new family enjoying the premier of the new gekiganger movie [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

More ** waffo ** for me instead.
Mind you I forgot about that OVA. I will continue to pick more of the newwer releases of other stuff slowly over the year. Getting full seasons of the older anime is hard to pick from since I don't want to get into the very long running TV shows that never end and that mostly what is left.

Somewhere recently I have heard there was the manga Ghost! that was renamed for U.S. release yet for some reason I cannot find out what it was renamed too, that is no two sites seem to give the same name as the ‘new’ name. Does anyone know what the new release name will be?

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Originally posted by SCDawg:
Somewhere recently I have heard there was the manga Ghost! that was renamed for U.S. release yet for some reason I cannot find out what it was renamed too, that is no two sites seem to give the same name as the 'new' name. Does anyone know what the new release name will be?

"Eerie Queerie". If you go to the Tokyopop website, the manga is still listed in their drop down as "Ghost" but it has the other name on the page itself.

Yeah, that part about the ramen recipe always threw me in the movie. I kept thinking I missed something in the television series.

Yup remembering more about the thread. Origionally Yurka’s pop didn’t approve of the marriage. So he challenged Akito that if he could create a ramen that he loved he would allow Yurika to marry him. And he did by making a regular ramen recipe Ruri was keeping that recipe for when Akito returns they could start their ramen restraunt with Yurika which was always Akito’s dream. But with all of akito’s taste and smell senses gone because of the experiments they did to him, he could never again become a chef.