So how many here watch anime and read manga

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#541

I’ve seen a couple. Or it could have just been the same one twice. Not sure. :shrug: Either way, I’ve seen manga advertised on tv, and it’s nice to see good conquering evil on tv and spreading the word about the good books. Oh, praise mighty Sarjalim in all her glory! If you know Sarjalim, good for you. You’re in good hands with Allstate. Sorry, I’ve been tired all day. Going to E3 for three days and working first thing next morning really takes it’s toll on you.

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#542

Cool, I am glad that I am not the only one that has seen these ads or simialr ones. To be honest I was slightly afriad with the timing they had it on the air that it would limit the audience of those that would actually see the ads for manga.


Late nights and early mornings, very recently I could do that without a problem, but after doing it for about four weeks I suddenly find it very hard to do, just when I need to do it even longer.

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#543

Of course all us anime otaku has been well trained by CN to watch at 11pm-2am with their adult swim That’s probably the group TP is trying to market to. Actually from what I hear TP commercials have been appearin on G4TechTV, CNN, and some other stations. I know CNN?? me too but some guy said he saw an add there.

#544
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Originally posted by wanfu2k1:
(...) Actually from what I hear TP commercials have been appearin on G4TechTV, CNN, and some other stations. I know CNN??(...)

Way to go CNN.

Adult Swim that's right I said Toonami, my mistake still have not seen it during Toonami.

That is even better it is on more stations then I realized which seems like a very good thing for the good of the overall genre in terms of future sales.

#545

Well there was an article on Manga in USA today I belive a few days ago. Right now it’s around 120 million a year here in the states. It’s the fastest growing segement in the publishing industry right now Here’s the link
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=709&ncid=785&e=2&u=/usatoday/20040512/en_bo_usatoday/girlsgettheirshojoworkingincomicbookshops

#546

That is a very interesting article, but I am surprised the show teenage females as the biggest audience. At least the places I buy there seems more guys then girls around the manga sections.

#547

I think it’s the changing demographic of who is buying manga. Before it was mainly the male comic crowd buying manga but now with the so much shoujo manga out women especially teens are buying them. I know that whenever I go to my nearest borders there usually girls in the manga section reading.

#548

I just know when I go to my nearest Barnes and Noble and Waldenbooks there are always some girls but seem to often be more guys in the section though they could be there because of the girls. Also, now that I think of it the “resident expert” for Waldenbooks is a female probably in late teens early twenties, so that fits the mentioned profile.

Well even if it is true I just hope that does not push the genre released here too much toward the true shoujo manga and away from other types, though any I guess is good to get the manga market a heafty share of the overall market.

Though I admit I don’t think the manga version of Mahoromatic is a shoujo comic, so perhaps it is an unjust and premature worry of what U.S. retellers will do with manga given the profile of who seems to be the biggest buyer.

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#549

I doubt we will ever reach a point where it’s only shoujo being released. It’s just that right now there’s a totally new demographic (girls) that are interested in comics (really manga), plus the recent influx of Shoujo manga that it’s big news. Remember there was never a women’s market for comics before. There’s still way more shonen stuff then shoujo stuff being published here and will most likely continue to stay that way.

#550

Here’s hoping, and yeah I can see that being a reason why it is now getting so much more publicity. The media playing up the “first” women/girls comics out there, or the first time women have found “their own” comic outlet.

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#551
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Originally posted by SCDawg:
Here's hoping, and yeah I can see that being a reason why it is now getting so much more publicity. The media playing up the "first" women/girls comics out there, or the first time women have found "their own" comic outlet.

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Other than FAN SERVICE I thought most of the manga that I have seen has equal rights for both sexes.

#552

Most of what I have seen seems to be that way too, but when they mention a focus toward a particular gender, I was not sure if that somehow went futher then just fan service. Yes people can argue that fan service goes toward males only, but then again there are people that can argue it is put in a story girls might like more then guys in order to get male attention, I am not saying that is true, just saying that is another argument that can be made about fan service.

I am not sure how to say this without sounding sexist, if I have not already, which has not, nor is my intent, however there are plots that are obviously geared toward anyone, even if they might have fan service and plots that are at least stereotypically geared toward one gender or another, and remember there is some small amount of truth in all stereotypes, which might be hard to find but is still there as the basis for the original origin of the stereotype.

If the market believes one of those stereotypes will sell more they might gear more toward that stereotype.

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#553

Well fanservice can be many things. For the young males it could be the flashing of panties, for mech heads it’s the detailed shots of some of the mechs, for women I’m sure it’s those bishonen that always get’s their shirt torn or missing

#554

I tend to agree fan service should be mostly placing something in the manga that will appeal to the fans you want to target. Just wonder how many others out there though don’t hear that phrase and think at first and perhaps only of a manga full of panty shots.

#555
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Originally posted by wanfu2k1:
Well fanservice can be many things. For the young males it could be the flashing of panties, for mech heads it's the detailed shots of some of the mechs, for women I'm sure it's those bishonen that always get's their shirt torn or missing [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

But in many anime you have good looking men and women that don't always need to be in a state of half-dressed. I like lovely clothing as well as exotic fur on cat girls . Is it just me or does America not have TV shows with well behaved and nicely dressed ( need not be uniformed) high school envornments and high school students acting more like adults than say 'punks'?

#556
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Originally posted by woodelf:
But in many anime you have good looking men and women that don't always need to be in a state of half-dressed. I like lovely clothing as well as exotic fur on cat girls . Is it just me or does America not have TV shows with well behaved and nicely dressed ( need not be uniformed) high school envornments and high school students acting more like adults than say 'punks'?


Oh various types of dress on most of the women protrayed can be more alluring then half-dress, more mysterious that I agree, but I think it is because American television is so quasi-conserverative (cannot curse or show nudity but can more then hint to sex happening in reality television shows) that panty shots/girls or guys in towels coming our of the shower or hot spring are part of what sell here, because you don't see that in cartoons here, do you need too, well that is another issue entirely.

Few shows have the people in high schools acting like adults rather then 'punks' but given a society where shows called something like Temptation Island actually make money I am not surprised that people would rather see high schoolers as punks then adults, the adults doesn't sound exciting enough to most people I think, which is part of the problem.

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#557
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Originally posted by SCDawg:

Oh various types of dress on most of the women protrayed can be more alluring then half-dress, more mysterious that I agree, but I think it is because American television is so quasi-conserverative (cannot curse or show nudity but can more then hint to sex happening in reality television shows).
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I think that is part of the problem, as
what I dislike is all the 'juvenile' view
point that since things are 'forbiden' they can be hinted so strongly that they tend to ruin the story. How many times does a show end with the feeling that just after the credits you would have rapant sex and lust.
Some movies like 'ghost' and 'dirty dancing' are well done but most ( generaly si-fi ) are not.


#558

What types of Sci-Fi? Sci-Fi love stories??

See I never get that feeling there are some moments that will end in what you said, I just get the feeling the writer was likely drunk they were writing some of those stories and any ending becomes a welcome ending. The stories I would like to see one more chapter on are more along the lines of the style of endings for Private Nurse or Heart de Roommate style of endings then ones where after the credits you can assume something is happening.

Also what would you rather have, those things shown or those things hinted at?

To ignore the forbidden, which should not be forbidden to start with (a whole other issue), is horrible because you force it to more ‘black market’ stature where it will still be seen and going on but it is out of the public eye and out of any sense of control. If you want something like this under your control, keep it in the public eye.

Given the options I think having it shown is better but since society, in the U.S. at least, is so uptight about such things I think having it hinted at is perhaps the only and thus best way it can be done. Also as you mentioned I think it can be hinted at without being juvenile. This society is just strange, for some reason we can allude all we want to people having sex but to say it suddenly gets us black-listed as being bad people out to ‘corrupt the minds of minors’.

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#559
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Originally posted by SCDawg:
This society is just strange, for some reason we can allude all we want to people having sex but to say it suddenly gets us black-listed as being bad people out to 'corrupt the minds of minors'.

But I am out to corrupt the minds of minors...

I'm joking, at least as far as any of you know. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img] And I stopped trying to figure out all the contradictory, strange or confusing things in society. I just end up with a big bloody headache when I do.

Didn't want to interrupt your conversation but I'm too lazy to do this brief foray on any other thread. I read the first volume of Negima this weekend. And my first thought is, did Akamatsu-sensei have a nervous breakdown one day and try to figure out how many different hairstyles he can do? I mean, I am enjoying it so far, but I'm also constantly flipping back to the page that showed the chart with all 31 students in a vain effort to keep track of who's who.

#560
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Originally posted by ekylo:
But I am out to corrupt the minds of minors...

I'm joking, at least as far as any of you know. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/wink.gif[/img] And I stopped trying to figure out all the contradictory, strange or confusing things in society. I just end up with a big bloody headache when I do.

Didn't want to interrupt your conversation but I'm too lazy to do this brief foray on any other thread. I read the first volume of Negima this weekend. And my first thought is, did Akamatsu-sensei have a nervous breakdown one day and try to figure out how many different hairstyles he can do? I mean, I am enjoying it so far, but I'm also constantly flipping back to the page that showed the chart with all 31 students in a vain effort to keep track of who's who.

I have that problem with only 3 or 4 main characters in print. [img]http://princess.cybrmall.net/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
I tend to favor stories with a few characters in depth rather than a army of people that come and go.